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  • James 13:15 on April 30, 2015 Permalink | Reply
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    How a psychopath views you 

    One of the reasons I’m allowed here is the extent to which I am able to ‘reveal’ or illuminate the psychopathic condition through not only what I say but how I say it. Some posts, through their subject matter, will reveal more than others. That is not something which especially interests me, but since it’s important to someone, it is fair to say that this is probably one of those extra-revelatory posts.  

    People are resources to be used like any other. But they’re not all the same, they are individuals. I don’t need to label them in order to interact with them. All the same, for the people I come into contact with, I categorise them into four different groups based on their value to me. I say “I categorise them”, it’s not something I’m overly conscious of, but when I interact with a specific person I conceptualise and treat them based on their group. And like I said, I’m not talking about people’s objective value, just their value in relation to my needs and wants.

    So enough waffling already, what are the groups?

    • Useful – people to be used for something of value they have. They’re a pretty common type. Analogous with tools.
    • Entertainment – people with whom I interact for pleasure. Not too many at the minute, though obviously their number goes up and down as people come and go. Analogous with toys, and in some favourable cases, pets.
    • Threat – people who may cause problems for my wellbeing. The least common group by far.
    • Unimportant – people who have no value, either positive or negative, to me. Basically most people on the planet.

    One issue with this list is it could be argued that entertainment is just a more specific form of usefulness; the person’s utility lies in their entertainment value.  People whose entertainment value is very great may become my friends. I’ll have to talk about friends in another post.

    So which are you? Well, you’re reading this so I guess you’re helping to support one of my hobbies, which makes you a cause of my entertainment. On the other hand, most of you are silent readers and for all I know you’re not the same crowd from week to week, which would make the individual reader rather unimportant. Nevertheless, that status belies how I really feel about you who read my posts; I greatly value your continued interest in what I’ve got to say – why else would I write?

    Should you leave a comment, you’d certainly stand a good chance of an upgrade. And you’d be able to tell whether it worked from my reaction. If I reply, you’ve become entertainment in yourself. It doesn’t take much, just a comment that isn’t completely unintelligible or boring. Who knows, you may even share information so valuable that you become useful, for a while.

    You can of course be more than one thing at a time; people I make use of may also be people I like. It’s when you’re just the former but you think you’re the latter where problems are generated – for you. So if you had a really charming friend or lover who left you one day without a backward glance, and whom you now believe to be a psychopath, it was almost certainly the case that you were only being used for whatever your ‘friend’ or ‘lover’ wanted at the time. When they left, it was because they decided that – what is that phrase again? – your usefulness was at an end. Still, at least they didn’t snap you in half on their knee.

    Unimportant or not, your views are bound to interest someone. So leave a comment! 

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    • Mike 17:27 on September 29, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Hi Amaterasu. Apologies long time to reply again. Mmm, interesting. Went to see a therapst & apparantlly I’m a borderline whatever that means. Ok, so, am I choosing to anger ? Mmm, it presupposes I have control over my emotions, yet anger to me feels like a reaction. If tell myself to choose to react different I feel I’m trying to suppress the cells I’m made of which are telling me it’s a threat/enemy of my ex girlfriend rather like a caveman or jellyfish response to danger who has a nasty effect on my ability to feel equilibrium. In other words all I feel is rage. I will try to tell myself, no Mike, now stop it, you’ve just walked past & seen the nasty piece of crap who’s continuing to pester me by being in my area when she doesn’t even live there now, stay ca,m and ,ok, I choose to feel forgiveness and pleasure and peaceful. Ok, in theory it might work, but what do I do when 5 seconds later, whaaam, sod that and the anger smacks me straight in the face again ! See the problem 😡 but yes, thanks, I will definitely try your suggestion. By the way , is that a DBT technique?

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      • Amaterasu Solar 17:34 on September 29, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        From the time something emotionally impactful occurs to the time You can take control is 2 seconds. Yes, once those two seconds pass, what You choose to think about and how You choose to think about what You choose to think about allow You to control the feelings You have, including anger. You don’t tell Yourself to choose differently… You ask Yourself if there is a better choice and let Your subconscious work on it. As for the “technique…” I don’t know what “DBT” is. I arrived at My awareness through reading William Glasser’s Choice Theory (which is more a fact than a theory, based on My experiments with it…).

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    • Mike 15:38 on October 1, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      I’ll check out this a William Glasser’s book. So see her, get angry and what, count to 2 ?

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      • Amaterasu Solar 17:30 on October 1, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        As soon as You can, choose to think of something that makes You feel good – I usually think of kittens! LOL! – that has nothing to do with Her. Keep going back to that thought if You find You are thinking about Her. That’s one way. Or, think something like, Isn’t She pathetic, being there again! LOLOL! Meh, She’s irrelevant to Me! What You choose to think about and how You choose to think about what You choose to think about… Here’s a vid I did about that:

        Let Me know Your thoughts.

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    • Mike 23:53 on October 2, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      I like the concept of thinking something else when I walk past or see her by chance thanks I will certainly try it. Bit here’s the thing. I still feel like it’s forced although I certainly do believe that our thoughts form pathways in the brain & continually thinking painful thoughts strengthens & makes them worse . Yes , so by this token your suggestion makes logical sense. I will watch the video thanks & mail you after I’ve seen it. The only trouble I have with the Ida of thinking these different thoughts is that they are not my true feeling. Therefore I will be in a sense lying to myself. My true feelings tell me I want her to be accused of sexualy harassing men, inform her husband she is cheating & lying to him, & text her warning her not to pester me. That might make her realise how trying to dupe people doesn’t work. It’s the only language she would probably understand. I won’t do it because I have resoect for my higher self. But I suspect one day she’ll get her Karma by messing around someone worse than her at a time when she is weak. Haha, ok, now I’ve gone all borderline again (this is the psycho website right so what the heck) anyway, back to your suggestion. Thank you very much I will look at it this week. By the way, yes I’d love her to be different & get back with her in theory, but no I’m not pining after her, this is about anger & feeling abused by an idiot who refuses to speak because they don’t want to hear any truth that puts them in a bad light. I hate that, literally hate it .

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      • Amaterasu Solar 10:26 on October 3, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        You speak of “true feelings….” What are One’s “true feelings” but what One is feeling in the Now? If One is not thinking of things that upset One, One’s true feelings are those One feels about what One is thinking. If One changes how One is thinking about what One is thinking, One’s true feelings are those that are elicited by the thought process.

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    • Mike 12:31 on October 3, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      It works in theory. Perhaos not so with borderlines. No meter what I try ultimately my feelings or ‘reactions’ break through into the Now. I watched a bit of Glasser. I approve of it, nits something to use alongside being human as a sort of coping skill in my view , but it’s sort of impossible to be ‘completely ‘ zoomed out on it as humans we need to opine and let off steam etc. In that sense it almost whacks of a cult or a religion. But I do think it has value, I tried it today as I walked by. She wasn’t there thank F. Anyway I thought of kittens then I told myself she is a loser becasue she lost someone she said she loved (me) Then I walked past, then the pain blame critisism need to bribe etc … hate disgust pain and longing all came back as soon as I stopped thinking it !

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      • Amaterasu Solar 14:33 on October 3, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        Do understand that it does take practice – old pathways take a while to overwrite. As I mentioned, it took a while to stop choosing to depress. But eventually the new pathways were established – took a few months, as I had spent a couple decades building the depression pathways. Keep at it, and give it a bit of time. I think You will find that it works…

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    • Mike 13:51 on October 4, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Mmm, ,maybe a bit

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  • James 16:14 on October 4, 2017 Permalink | Reply

    Life would be no fun without a bit of misery. I like to think we psychopaths help to add to the richness of life. Can certainly understand why others wouldn’t agree with that, however.

    One thing we can perhaps all agree on is that you can’t expect a new coping technique, as recommended by Amaterasu, to work after just mere seconds of trying it out. These things take time. Think of it like learning a new skill; you can’t just read a book on (say) Japanese, and then expect to be able to go to Japan and speak to everyone in their language fluently. You need to practise; only then can you get good at Japanese, and only with practice can you train your mind into reacting in a more productive way which serves you well.

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    • Amaterasu Solar 20:56 on October 4, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Yes, James, I would not agree that life would be no fun without a bit of misery. My life was very rich without misery. It’s rich now only by virtue of My work to solve for psychopaths in control. Other than that, it is quite poor.

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  • Mike 18:46 on October 7, 2017 Permalink | Reply

    Hehe,nice one, Is a borderline the same as a psychopath ?

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    • James 13:07 on October 8, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Not at all, but there are similarities. Both are considered to be cluster B personality disorders (well “psychopathy” is actually called antisocial personality disorder in that sense) along with narcissistic personality disorder and histrionic personality disorder.

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      • Mike 16:35 on October 10, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        Mmm, yeah I always thought there was something different about me. Apparently I’m narsisitc as well. What are the similarities?

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  • Mike 21:21 on October 12, 2017 Permalink | Reply

    Hehe, yeah that’s right. Interesting, I’ll take a look

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  • Mike 00:46 on October 13, 2017 Permalink | Reply

    So James, I wonder if its possible to get even with an ex partner if they are a psychopath playing the devalue & discard routine

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    • James 05:46 on October 13, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Just murder her I suppose 😉

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  • Mike 01:34 on October 14, 2017 Permalink | Reply

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  • Mike 12:32 on October 14, 2017 Permalink | Reply

    Well i wont kill her. Maybe I’ll just write her husband a nice little letter exposing his wife’s lying and cheating . Haha. Love to see the look on her stupid face when he confronts her. Classic. I’d like to film ot and put on youtube 🙂 I could watch it over and over and show it to all my friends and post it to all her friends. Oh well, I suppose ill just have to let the stuupid cow just get away with it. Nevermind

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  • Remia 08:21 on November 6, 2017 Permalink | Reply

    How interesting. Last year someone asked me how I viewed other people and I said to him “Useful as a tool, useful as entertainment, a threat, or completely useless to me”. This was when I was fifteen and I always believed that everyone secretly feels this way but few readily accept this viewpoint. I never really knew that these views were exclusive to psychopaths

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    • James 13:02 on November 6, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Then you’re learning. Knowledge is power. Good luck to you.

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  • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 15:32 on April 28, 2015 Permalink | Reply
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    America: Land of the Thief, Home of the Slave |Welcome to the Oligarch Recovery 

    “When they first come in my door in the morning, the first thing I do is an inventory of immediate needs: Did you eat? Are you clean? A big part of my job is making them feel safe,” said Sonya Romero-Smith, a veteran teacher at Lew Wallace Elementary School in Albuquerque. Fourteen of her 18 kindergartners are eligible for free lunches.

    She helps them clean up with bathroom wipes and toothbrushes, and she stocks a drawer with clean socks, underwear, pants and shoes.

    From the Washington Post article: Majority of U.S. Public School Students are in Poverty

    It’s a recovery so lopsided only Timothy Geithner or an oligarch could love it. Since 2008, U.S. economic policy has concentrated on funneling as much money as possible to billionaires, keeping the poor alive and submissive through government programs, and squeezing the middle class to death while at the same time holding out the carrot of hope that things will return to how they were before (they won’t).

    The latest evidence of this monumental cultural theft was highlighted yesterday in the Washington Post. Here are a few excerpts:

    For the first time in at least 50 years, a majority of U.S. public school students come from low-income families, according to a new analysis of 2013 federal data, a statistic that has profound implications for the nation.

    The Southern Education Foundation reports that 51 percent of students in pre-kindergarten through 12th grade in the 2012-2013 school year were eligible for the federal program that provides free and reduced-price lunches. The lunch program is a rough proxy for poverty, but the explosion in the number of needy children in the nation’s public classrooms is a recent phenomenon that has been gaining attention among educators, public officials and researchers.

    A “recent phenomenon.” Call me crazy, but that isn’t what you’d expect five years into a so-called economic recovery.

    “We’ve all known this was the trend, that we would get to a majority, but it’s here sooner rather than later,” said Michael A. Rebell of the Campaign for Educational Equity at Teachers College at Columbia University, noting that the poverty rate has been increasing even as the economy has improved. “A lot of people at the top are doing much better, but the people at the bottom are not doing better at all. Those are the people who have the most children and send their children to public school.”

    Again, this isn’t a economic recovery, it is theft. Until we can admit to ourselves what the idiots and thieves in power have done, nothing will change.

    “When they first come in my door in the morning, the first thing I do is an inventory of immediate needs: Did you eat? Are you clean? A big part of my job is making them feel safe,” said Sonya Romero-Smith, a veteran teacher at Lew Wallace Elementary School in Albuquerque. Fourteen of her 18 kindergartners are eligible for free lunches.

    She helps them clean up with bathroom wipes and toothbrushes, and she stocks a drawer with clean socks, underwear, pants and shoes.

    America: Land of the Thief, Home of the Slave.

    Excerpt from Welcome to the Oligarch Recovery – Majority of Public School Students are in Poverty for First Time in 50 Years by Michael Krieger

     

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  • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 14:20 on April 27, 2015 Permalink | Reply
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    A Sociopathic System of Institutions and Elites Have Rewritten the Laws 

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    Sociopathic individuals in the United States are often successful and well adjusted. Most of them are sane and well educated. They are more likely to be conforming to the values and rules of conduct of a society than violating them.

    The reason? It is the society, it’s rules and values, that are sociopathic.

    So says Charles Derber in his book —Sociopathic Society: A People’s Sociology of the United States (Paradigm Publishers, 2013).

    Derber is a Professor of Sociology at Boston College in Chestnut Hill, Massachusetts.

    He is the author of more than 20 books including Corporation Nation: How Corporations are Taking Over Our Lives — and What We Can Do About It.

    “A sociopathic society is one that develops anti-societal rules of behavior,” Derber told Corporate Crime Reporter in an interview last week. “Our whole structure is designed to focus us on biology and personalities and not institutions. We see individuals, we don’t see systems.”

    “In my book, Sociopathic Society, I argue that the intense and frightening way of sociopathic behavior is being carried out by large scale corporations, which are fundamentally sociopathic in their DNA, their charter and the larger market and political economy in which they operate.”

    “The sociopathic behavior is not a reflection of brain chemistry gone awry but of the triumph of a sociopathic system of institutions and elites who have rewritten social norms, rewritten the law, reconfigured the institutional power arena in such an extreme way that they have created a society in which the dominant norms of behavior require sociopathic conduct for survival.”

    Are people who are plugged into a sociopathic society sociopaths?

    “Not all of them,” Derber says.

    If you are a worker for Exxon Mobil, are you a sociopath?

    “ExxonMobil is one of the most sociopathic institutions in the world,” Derber says.

    The fact that they are producing fossil fuels makes them sociopathic?

    “The corporation is sociopathic. The executives who are making the rules and dictating the behavior of the corporation, which is helping to destroy the planet, is sociopathic. The workers are trying to make a living. Some workers, whether in the oil sector or not, don’t have a lot of options. They take what they can get. Is that sociopathic? Is it sociopathic to survive?”

    “This is the dilemma that the sociopathic society creates. The people may not be psychologically disposed to be anti-social, to the environment and to other people. But in order to function within the system they have to hook up with sociopathic institutions and carry out behavior that is destructive and anti-social.”

    “Are they sociopaths? Their behavior contributes to sociopathic ends. But their motives are not necessarily sociopathic. The institution’s DNA is driven by sociopathic imperatives.”

    “Virtually all work in the United States involves association and capitulation to sociopathic companies and rules. And it becomes normalized in sociopathic society.”

    “In the book, I talk about Lance Armstrong being interviewed by Oprah Winfrey. And Oprah asked him — did you think you were being a sociopath, were you lying and cheating? And he said — no, I was just doing what staying in the game required. It’s like the norm of the game.”

    “In a sense, Lance Armstrong was telling the truth. You can’t survive as a world class cyclist without being sociopathic. The rules of the game have made it such. You can’t work in America without participating in the sociopathic reality that is corporate America.”

    “Societies can be anti-social. Corporate America is an anti-social beast. It is destroying much of the environment, it is destroying many people’s lives.”

    “There are more and less sociopathic societies. The United States is on the sociopathic high end. It’s corporations have taken such great control over the society and the state.”

    Derber’s next book, due out in February, is titled The Disinherited Majority (Paradigm Publishers, February 2015.)

    It’s about Thomas Piketty’s bestseller — Capital in the Twenty-First Century.

    How does Derber explain the popularity of that book?

    “People recognize that we are becoming a third world system of inequality — the wealth is going to the one percent of the one percent,” Derber says.

    “The vast majority of the rest of the population engages in day to day economic struggle. Piketty captured that general awareness, which had not been fully articulated. He showed that this was a reality that transcended time and place in capitalism. He took data from over 20 countries and over 200 years. He showed that this is the way our system operates. He took this sociopathic inequality and made it clear that it is built into the nature of the system we are living in. The book is not highly theoretical. It’s not highly political. It simply overpowers the reader. He’s a mathematical economist. He puts out reams of carefully organized data from centuries. The Financial Times couldn’t touch him.”

    “Piketty thinks there should be a global tax on wealth. He says taxation is our way of collectively deciding what we want as a society. He’s not a narrow wonk. He’s making a general philosophical point.”

    “Piketty, while he’s a Keynesian New Deal economist, is in effect a radical economist. In effect, he’s saying capitalism is not just a class system, it’s a caste system. As wealth becomes concentrated and increasingly inherited, the translation of that politically is that we have caste classes. Marx said that at least ideologically, capitalism was a liberation from feudalism, from the middle ages, where everyone was locked for life in their position as serf or slaves. The implication of Piketty is that the working class is becoming a caste.”

    “It’s not just if you are born black you will be black for life. It’s that if you are born into the working class poor, which is increasingly the disinherited majority, who don’t inherit wealth, then you are born into that station for life. The American dream, the idea of a meritocracy, the idea that you are going to pull yourself up by your bootstraps, Piketty’s data washes that whole concept away. It shows that you are born into your economic station much as you were in the Middle Ages and you are not going to have much luck in changing that.”

    Derber points out in his writings and teachings that the whole issue can be solved with law and order. Most recently, he makes this point in his book — Capitalism: Should You Buy It?: An Invitation to Political Economy. (Paradigm Publishers, 2014.)

    “Most of my more recent works have focused on what we the people need to do and have the ability to do,” Derber says. “We must restructure the political economy, the legal system. We must return the corporation to a public corporation, created by we the people, accountable to we the people. We created this sociopathic monster. And we have been living with it for the last 100 years. Of course we can change it. It’s a human construction.”

    [For the complete q/a transcript of the Interview with Charles Derber, see 29 Corporate Crime Reporter 1(13), January 15, 2015, print edition only.]

    Excerpt from Charles Derber on Our Sociopathic Society January 2015

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