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  • James 14:21 on May 12, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Mythbusting psychopathy (part the second) 

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    Here we are again, back to kick more stupid myths into the long grass where they belong.

    What myths or misconceptions about things would you like to bust, if only people would listen?

     

    MYTH: Psychopaths have no emotions.

    This is one myth psychopaths themselves (and narcissists) love to propagate to enhance their mystique, but it’s bullshit. Everyone has emotions. The only living people with no emotions are comatose or else so severely brain-damaged they can only live with the help of a life-support machine. Even dementia patients with little or no sense of self, a completely blank memory and utter dependency on caregivers show signs of emotion when properly stimulated.

    Psychopathic emotions are selfish and inward-looking. In my experience, these emotions are often fleeting and can change rapidly. Some emotions are very blunted and don’t really cause much of a change in mood, while others can be so strong they temporarily obsess or enthral the psychopath. It can also be the case that the physical signs of an emotion are there (e.g. sweaty palms, quick heart rate, out of breath) but the psychopath feels calm in themselves, in their mind.

     

    MYTH: Psychopaths are crazy, or ‘psychotic’

    Psychopathy and psychosis are two different things. Just because a word looks similar, doesn’t mean they refer to the same thing. Psychotic people are people who have lost their grip on reality; they may hear voices, hallucinate or show magical thinking. They are very much not in control of their behaviour and generally need close medical attention for their own and others’ safety. Many otherwise healthy people suffer from psychotic episodes throughout their lives, and often recover with time or medication. Schizophrenia is an example of a psychotic disorder.

    Psychopaths are fully aware of their surroundings, their behaviour and the consequences of that behaviour. Psychopaths do not have a conscience, and are not unwell in the normal sense of the word, nor will they ‘recover’ with time or medical help. As a personality disorder with roots in an individual’s genetic makeup, this is who they are for life. Both psychopaths and psychotic people can be dangerous and violent, but many are not.

    “I’m not strange, weird, off, nor crazy, my reality is just different from yours.” – the Cheshire Cat

    There is absolutely no reason I can see why a psychopath couldn’t develop a psychotic disorder separate to and unaffected by their psychopathy. This is called co-morbidity. In fact anyone can reach sub-clinical psychosis simply by staying awake for abnormally long periods of time (symptoms start kicking in beyond the 36 hour mark). I’ve tried it once or twice; it’s an interesting experience, though not an especially pleasant one. I heard shouting voices in my head and felt off balance when I tried to walk. Overall, my memory of the experience is fuzzy. Yay, temporary brain damage!

    Oh, while we’re on this subject, unlike what certain pop psychology crackpots would have you believe, “psychopathology” is not the study of psychopaths, nor is it anything whatsoever to do with psychopaths. Psychopathology is the psychiatric version of pathology, therefore it is the study of all mental illnesses and psychological disorders / abnormalities. I repeat, similar-looking words don’t always have the same meaning!

     

    MYTH: My psychopathic ex planned to ensnare, manipulate and abuse me from the start of our relationship

    Psychopaths enter relationships in a very positive frame of mind; they often love everything about the other person and are so obsessed they want to learn every tiny little detail about them, know their entire history and the full spectrum of their emotions and thoughts. In extreme cases, the psychopath may have a painful urge to possess or climb inside their new partner. They try to please the other person by mirroring them closely and being the ideal mate for them.

    After a period of time, this effort is exhausting and the other person starts to lose their appeal. Most psychopaths’ relationships stall at this point as the other person ceases to have any interest. It’s all just the same old person, same old stuff. Boredom sets in, and the psychopath either moves on without a backward glance (I prefer this), or else takes their anger and frustration out on the other person.

    I have no citation for this and am just recounting from experience; you’ll just have to take my word for it (or not). If anyone can find actual research done in this field that contradicts me and not just pull up Lovefraud or similar bilge, that would be very welcome.

     

    MYTH: Psychopaths are in all the positions of power and are the puppet masters behind an international conspiracy to bring about a new world order.

    Image result for illuminati funnyWhile there are undoubtedly psychopaths in high places, including bankers, businesspeople and world leaders, the idea of them all working together behind the scenes for not just years, but decades, is frankly absurd.

    Listen, I don’t have any evidence to back this up, but psychopaths are not nearly co-operative enough for this to work. We don’t tend to get on well with each other, and are not known for our willingness to work in teams. Every single one of the conspirators would want the top job in the Illuminati and would be working to eliminate the competition, i.e. each other. The bloody thing would not get off the ground.

    And of course, when you realise this is the exact same idea as the Evil Zionist conspiracy theory, the exact same poisonous garbage just with the word “Jew” switched for “psychopath”, you know what kind of beast you’re dealing with.

     

    MYTH: Psychopaths are lizard men in skinsuits

    No, just no. You are welcome to verify that by getting hold of your nearest psychopath and opening him up to check all his lungs and bones and whatever else you humans have inside you are in the right place. You might need the help of a surgeon, except she’ll probably be a psychopath too and will naturally be in league with one of her kind, so you see the flaw in the plan? But seriously, demonising people (even psychopaths) is, apart from being rather insulting, a lazy way out of trying to understand why others are different. Speaking of demonisation…

     

    MYTH: Psychopaths are demons from hell

    Hell is a fairy tale designed to scare the gullible into obeying the clergy – who as you’ll remember are all psychopaths of course. The idea of demons may well originate from uneducated mediaeval people’s encounters with illnesses they couldn’t explain, such as epilepsy and schizophrenia. In fact, enough ignorants are still unconvinced about this that there is a whole department of the Royal College of Surgeons dedicated to correcting idiotic superstitions among certain communities.

    Despite the hysterical imaginations of cretins who swear they’ve seen a satanic glint in the eyes of their psychopath, I assure you I am not a demon, I am a liz-… human like you (I’m assuming here. If there are any non-humans reading this, I’d love to hear from you.)

    Talk to me. Read part 1 here.

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    • Amaterasu Solar 15:53 on May 12, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Excellent article, James. Indeed, I have had many mistake psychotic with psychopathic. But I will explain that indeed there ARE psychopaths in control on this planet, who inbreed to retain the psychopathic gene. In fact, grasping that psychopaths alone would not think much past Themselves to a future They would likely not see in Their lifetime, I was at first mystified by the clear (to Me, I suppose) evidence of a very long-term plan, a generational plan, being played out before Us on the literal world stage (what We see are actors following a script written by Ones We do not see and who have the ultimate control). I have theories, and My highest probability goes to an ET influence that has these top level psychopaths convinced that They are doing “satan’s” work (“Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.” – Arthur C Clarke).

      Others give highest probability that it IS “satan,” or demons, or interdimensional Beings, or other metaphysical elements. As I have no evidence that such metaphysical things exist, but, in reading ancient texts and legends from around the globe, I feel I have enough to suggest ET has been interacting with Our planet a long while and that ET lives substantially longer than do We. I favor things that have 3D+T explanations, and so ET is My highest probability.

      Overall, though, a very good explanation of things.

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      • James 09:43 on May 13, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        Thank you for your praise, it’s always welcome. I’m glad you enjoyed the article.

        Unfortunately the rest of your comment would indicate a psychosis on your part, though I understand if you don’t see it that way. I do not believe in Satan or the supernatural, and since the validity of your claims seem to based on the assumption that both exist and play an active role in shaping the universe, I can’t possibly take your claims seriously, so won’t even pretend to.

        Don’t take this the wrong way, I still like you 🙂

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        • Amaterasu Solar 11:18 on May 13, 2017 Permalink | Reply

          Hardly “psychosis.” Decades of research and a keen grasp that money promotes psychopaths to power, aiding in promoting Them to power in top-down controlmind (government) systems. You can dismiss My observations, and I will still like You as well. [smile]

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      • Zachary 07:50 on May 27, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        Lmafo.
        What a twat

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    • nowve666 16:22 on May 12, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      ROTFLMAO!!! I laughed my head off reading that. These myths that annoy me of course were funny to read about in your debunking article. I really liked what you said about relationships. That’s such a refreshing insight after all the bull about “lovebombing” as if we just stalked future love partners as prey and pretended interest (for what end?). Of course, some people could do that in order to get money from someone who has it. These people don’t need to be psychopaths. And NTs sometimes fall in love rapidly and then lose interest too. But then the person jilted can go to Lovefraud and call that person a “psychopath” whether he was or not.

      The myth about psychopaths ruling the world and causing all the problems is one I find particularly irksome. I’m glad you compared it to the anti-Semitic myths, particularly about the Rothschilds. As a Jew, I get pissed off whenever I hear this, especially when it comes from people who are otherwise politically sympathisch. I even blogged about the similarities between anti-psychopath scapegoating and the anti-Semitic kind.

      I laughed myself silly over the one about the reptiles. I think our moms would have noticed upon giving birth if their baby had scaly skin and so forth. Ditto to the one about demons. It’s human, all-too-human to want to demonize people who push our buttons. I don’t think people can face the fact that behavior they disapprove of is part of the human spectrum. I also don’t think anybody deserves to go to Hell. Not even Ronald Reagan, the person I most loath. The fact that most people (at least in the Western world) believe God, a supreme being would put anyone in such a place for all eternity only goes to show how dark the human psyche is capable of being.

      Thank you for this excellent post and for being my friend.

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      • Amaterasu Solar 18:07 on May 12, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        I may point out that if psychopaths were NOT in control, thet the bulk of the planet flows to very Few here, and They choose not to truly help – 99% of money donated by ANYONE to “charities” goes to pay ridiculous salaries at the high end – and given that some of these People could end poverty ten and more times over yet choose not to…suggests psychopathy. If They were caring Beings, They would be caring for Humanity… And given the psychopathic things We see – GMO’s, “geoengineering” with toxic elements, fake events touted as “reality,” and on and on… It becomes clear the Ones at the top are, indeed, psychopaths, inbreeding to retain the psychopath gene.

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        • nowve666 18:52 on May 12, 2017 Permalink | Reply

          There is a basic logical error here. You point out that there are lots of things wrong with the world we live in.
          Then you jump to the conclusion that it must be because psychopaths are in control of the world. What you are missing is a causal link between these two propositions. You assume that anyone who does anything wrong or unethical must be a psychopath. If that were true, there would be many more psychopaths than the 1% estimated by the experts. Have you looked at the PCL-R, the “gold standard” test for psychopathy? There are 20 items on the list. You only mention one: lack of caring.

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          • Amaterasu Solar 11:15 on May 13, 2017 Permalink | Reply

            The causal link? Money. The accounting for Human energy added into the system, required to survive. “If You have to account for Your energy to anOther to survive, You are NOT free; You are a slave.”

            That power over Others that money provides is what give the psychopaths in control the drive to get it and retain it. Money systems promote psychopaths to power.

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            • nowve666 12:16 on May 13, 2017 Permalink | Reply

              So only psychopaths go for money? Psychopaths like money. Nons also like money. Don’t tell me you don’t like money, Amaterasu. Everyone likes money. That doesn’t mean that everyone has money. Nor have you shown that have more than anyone else. Psychopaths exist on every level of the class structure. What “decades of research?” And doesn’t money promote whomever has it to power, psychopath or not?

              You talk about ETs but offered no evidence that ETs are working with psychopaths. I don’t think you’re psychotic. I just think you need to study the syllogism. Wikipedia says, “A syllogism (Greek: συλλογισμός syllogismos, ‘conclusion, inference’) is a kind of logical argument that applies deductive reasoning to arrive at a conclusion based on two or more propositions that are asserted or assumed to be true.” You start with a premise. For example, if your premise is “only psychopaths seek and get money,” then follow it with “only people with money have power,” your conclusion can be “psychopaths have all the power.” But your first premise is wrong. Psychopaths are not the only ones who seek and get money (and power). Therefore, your syllogism breaks down.

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              • Amaterasu Solar 14:47 on May 13, 2017 Permalink | Reply

                I did not say only psychopaths go for money – surely We all do as that is how We survive on this planet. BUT, psychopaths are the Ones who will do ANYTHING to get money/power over Others. And They do, accumulating money/power over Others far more than Others who have limits to what They will do for it, because of conscience and caring.

                And I don’t think the THEORY of ET needs proof. Geez. Did You notice I gave it as a theory based on ancient texts and legends. If I had proof, it wouldn’t be a theory, now would it. I am just saying that the plans, the scripts written, are clearly generational. And without some long-term direction, psychopaths would not work for things that are beyond Their life span. Ergo I THEORIZE an ET involvement on this planet. A PSYCHOPATHIC ET involvement.

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                • nowve666 16:16 on May 13, 2017 Permalink | Reply

                  Ama, your proposition that “psychopaths are the Ones who will do ANYTHING to get money/power over Others,” must be based on the fact that we do not have a conscience. Since freedom from conscience enables us to do anything, you assume that we WILL do anything to get money/power. I addressed that issue in my blog at https://kiasherosjourney.wordpress.com/2016/04/16/free-to-choose/ where I pointed out the freedom to do something doesn’t mean that we will inevitably do it. There are reasons why a psychopath wouldn’t “do anything for money.” In my case, I never really cared about money as long as I had enough to satisfy my rather modest desires. Sure, I could hold up a liquor store, I suppose. That would get me more money but it could also get me a stretch of prison time. I don’t want money that badly. Furthermore, as James and I have both tried to point out, non-psychopaths can and have done terrible things for money. If they are not psychopaths, they probably feel guilty afterwards. Having a conscience doesn’t prevent everyone from doing wrong. You just can’t assume someone is a psychopath because he has done something you consider terrible. That’s why they have tests and expert diagnoses.

                  I wasn’t poo-pooing the idea that there are extra-terrestrials. I just think the idea that they are in league with psychopaths is far-fetched.

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                  • Amaterasu Solar 16:58 on May 13, 2017 Permalink | Reply

                    I am not saying that ALL psychopaths WILL do that. I am saying that MANY of Them will. While Those who are not psychopaths will stop short, in high probability, thereby giving the many psychopaths that will do anything the upper hand in gaining power over Others. Ergo, money systems promote psychopaths. And money long ago promoted certain families (ones We seldom hear of, even) to the top, and They inbreed to retain the gene, and have a generational plan to take over the planet – and the reason I give highest probability for Them doing this is that there is some influence that is directing Them, that has a longer life span than Us Humans. Else there would be no such “new world order” plan.

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                    • James 18:03 on May 13, 2017 Permalink | Reply

                      But there is no “new world order” plan, so that solves that 😛

                      Trust me, Amy, we do not have enough family loyalty to spend our lives on a plan that only our great-great-great-grandchildren might benefit from. Your theory of psychopathic families hatching a plot over centuries doesn’t hold water. Now there may be a type of personality that does behave in that way, but they are not psychopaths because their behaviour is illogical from a psychopathic point of view. If I’m going to enact a new world order to put me in charge of planet Earth, I’m going to do it now, while I’m still around to enjoy it. Fuck future generations, I wouldn’t even share power with my living family, nevermind some hypothetical descendants.

                      As for being directed by ET; fuck ET! ET would be my bitch, not the other way around.

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                      • Amaterasu Solar 19:05 on May 13, 2017 Permalink

                        That’s why We can find “leaders” like George H W Bush talking about it. MANY of Them have brought up the NWO. So I guess We can concluded it’s fictional, right? Do a search for quote “New World Order” and see just how many “leaders” have brought it up.

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                      • nowve666 20:54 on May 13, 2017 Permalink

                        Our money has “Novus Ordo Seclorum” under a truncated pyramid. I guess that’s Latin for “New World Order” “Thus the motto Novus ordo seclorum can be translated as “A new order of the ages.” It was proposed by Charles Thomson, the Latin expert who was involved in the design of the Great Seal of the United States, to signify “the beginning of the new American Era” as of the date of the Declaration of Independence.” So this is a very old thing. Dates all the way back to the Declaration of Independence. You think the Founding Fathers were psychopaths?

                        Seriously, Amy. The “New World Order” is talked about a lot. But that doesn’t make it any more “real” than the Illuminati nor God, for that matter. These things have a certain meaning but not the conspiratorial one that’s so popular on the internet. And, as James said, psychopaths are not into that kind of sacrificial planning that would be needed to build some future dystopia. We’re more into the here and now.

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                      • James 03:59 on May 14, 2017 Permalink

                        The “NWO” mentioned on your banknotes is, and always was, the shifting of power away from the old world of empires and kings and towards the New World, i.e. America. That has pretty much happened over the past 200 years, and now the pendulum is swinging the other way, back east and towards Asia for the first time in about six centuries. I’d say the “New” World Order was a bit past its sell by date, wouldn’t you?

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                      • nowve666 13:14 on May 14, 2017 Permalink

                        My point. The NWO is nothing new. Just as the Illuminati was an ancient order in Bavaria that had nothing to do with the conspiracy theories, the NWO is basically a concept politicians can now evoke when needed. It can mean whatever someone wants it to mean.

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                      • Amaterasu Solar 08:33 on May 14, 2017 Permalink

                      • James 03:54 on May 14, 2017 Permalink

                        Or you could show me a video clip of at least one leader mentioning it 🙂

                        Anyway, you fixated on the least important part of my comment. Fact is, I can’t prove there’s no NWO conspiracy (just as you can’t prove there is one), but I have made a good stab at proving it’s not psychopaths. How about addressing that, largest and most important point of my comment?

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      • James 09:54 on May 13, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        Yes, when I hatched out of my egg, my mother was quick to dismiss any fleeting similarities between myself and Gary, our pet gecko.

        Hell is a brutal concept really, and I can see how people might believe it justified for really horrible individuals to go there for a limited period of time, but an eternity of neverending torture seems unjustly cruel even for someone like Stalin or Hitler (or Reagan). I can understand centuries, maybe even millennia, of agonising punishment being reasonably well-deserved, but an eternity? God is one cold motherfucker. It’s ridiculously out of proportion to any evil even the worst human is capable of committing.

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        • nowve666 10:08 on May 13, 2017 Permalink | Reply

          Right. As mortals, we are incapable of infinite evil. We are finite. Infinite punishment for finite crimes is absurd.

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    • Amaterasu Solar 17:17 on May 16, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Well this is weird. I got an email of a post here by nowve666 discussing the cremation of care ceremony at Bohemian Grove (something I already knew about this), and other stuff which She rightly points out supports My research on the psychopaths in control. But when I get here… It’s not. Can’t see it anywhere. Any clue what’s up there?

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    • nowve666 17:52 on May 16, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Amy, I can’t see it either. How weird. Maybe James didn’t approve it.

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  • James 18:00 on April 28, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Do psychopaths dream? 

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    It is a question that is often posed by the victims of psychopaths, by people who have known them, and just by the curious. In fact, when you type “do psychopaths” into Google, the search suggestions are as follows:

    1. do psychopaths cry?
    2. do psychopaths feel fear?
    3. do psychopaths yawn?
    4. do psychopaths love?
    5. do psychopaths dream?

    The first four are boring questions, and very easy to answer by anyone who ever gave them any thought:

    1. Rarely
    2. Yes, but hardly. Fearlessness is one of the main criteria in the PCL-R
    3. You might as well ask, “do psychopaths need to breathe?” Yes, we yawn when we’re tired, just like you!
    4. Nah

    But the fifth question is interesting. Its answer isn’t immediately obvious a priori and it tries to delve into the inner worlds of psychopaths in a clever way. What’s more, it’s one question to which, despite its popularity among inquisitive souls, is difficult to find a satisfactory answer, amid tedious conversations that go nowhere, and threads where everyone says equally plausible but mutually contradictory things.

    Well look no further, because I am a psychopath, and I can confirm that yes, I dream. I don’t dream very often (or at least I don’t often remember my dreams), in fact more often than not I have the stereotypical “death sleep” of a vampire, unburdened by thoughts and concerns from the day. I don’t have sleepless or disturbed nights because of stress, and I don’t lie awake mulling over ‘bad’ things I’ve done. But I do, on occasion, dream. My dreams tend to be fairly weird, though nothing so surreal as to inspire artwork.

    One recent dream I had, there was a bird trapped inside my room, beating its wings pointlessly against the closed window. As I walked over to open the window and free it, it seemed to panic and fly at me, so I hit it to stop it pecking me and it fell to the floor, dead. A couple of nights ago, I dreamt the house next door was on fire. The family that lives there has three children and two dogs, and they were also trapped upstairs (noticing a pattern yet?) I dialled for the emergency services, but when the fire brigade arrived, they had brought the police and accused me of setting the fire, which as far as I can recall, I hadn’t. In both dreams, I tried to do the decent thing, but the other ‘characters’ in the dream had other ideas and did their best to throw my help back in my face. I’m not really into dream interpretation, but if anyone wants to have a go at figuring these ones out, be my guest.

    Most commonly, I’m not even in my own dreams. Or rather, I’m like a static observer or an omniscient narrator, and the other people in the dream are acting out a story in front of me. Usually they’re not people that I know in real life, just ‘characters’ that inhabit the dream world. Sometimes I can go in and out of different people and take control of them for a while, make them do what I want to do, see the dream from their perspective, and then fly out and go back to watching again. These dreams tend to be violent, and seem to be set predominantly in horror movies or wars, but there’s not really any emotional content to them or consequences for being in them. Like I said, I’m more of a bystander watching things happen. Even when I ‘take over’ the characters, what happens to them doesn’t really end up affecting me. If the person I’m inhabiting gets hacked to death, then I just fly out of them and look down on their mutilated corpse with detached interest.

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    are made of this

    Very occasionally I dream of people close to me dying. In real life, this sort of event doesn’t cause much emotion in me. If I liked the person, I am sorry they’re no longer around for me to enjoy them, but the idea of crying about it is utterly foreign. However, in these dreams, I’m very upset, grief-stricken even, in a way I have never been in my waking life. I seem to imagine myself as an ordinary, empathetic person, crying about the death of someone I love, just like I’ve seen other people be around death, and being really cut up about their loss. Unlike the previous two types of dream, these are closer to what I would think of as a nightmare, in that they’re actually unpleasant to experience. I don’t enjoy feeling those emotions, or at least dreaming that I am feeling them, and I especially don’t enjoy losing control of myself. Then, when I wake up, I’m back to normal. My pillow is sometimes wet; whether with tears or sweat, I don’t know. But I just think “huh, that was weird”, and go about my day.

     

    I have no idea if these dreams bear any resemblance to the sorts of dreams other people have. I’d be interested to hear from you.

    Art credit goes to the extremely creative, extremely talented and extremely dead Zdzisław Beksiński.

    I wonder if he’s living his dreams now?

     
    • nowve666 18:37 on April 28, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      When I was a child, I had repetitive dreams. I had dreams of exploring. I dreamed I was on a beach. My favorite dream was I am on a beach and a giant tidal wave comes over the entire beach. There is no way to avoid it. I am swept out to sea. But I can breath under water.

      We spent a summer on a farm and there was a cross rooster who scared all the kids. One night, I dreamed I loved the rooster. After that, I wasn’t afraid of him but that same day, they slaughtered him. I cried and cried and swore I would never stop crying. However, later, they served him for dinner and I ate him. He was delicious.

      One more childhood dream. I dreamed I turned into a monster. I got very tall, I was all the way up to the ceiling. I knew if my parents saw me, they would know I was a monster and destroy me so I knew I had to kill them. The dream didn’t go any further however.

      As an adult, Vicki and I like to watch our favorite movies on our DVD player. I often fall asleep. I watch the DVD from my bed. I enjoy the kind of twilight state of sleeping and intermittently waking to see the screen. I almost always think I’m seeing the window at first. Then I realize it’s the TV. The movie and the dream kind of merge.

      As far as emotions in dreams go, I experienced a lot of euphoria, especially when dreaming of the beach. When I was in the nut house, I had a scary dream about a nurse who worked there. In my dream, she was evil and powerful. After I woke up, I still felt creepy about her until I talked to my shrink and we worked out the dream was about feeling unable to communicate. After that, she didn’t bother me.

      Oh! And I had a dream after I saw The Exorcist. That is the only movie that ever scared me. In the dream, In saw Regan’s head twisting around like it did in the movie and she had a really evil look on her face. Then I realized I can witness evil without being consumed by it and my fear went away both in the dream and in real life related to the movie.

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      • James 19:00 on April 28, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        You have a better memory for dreams than me. There’s no way I could remember such details from dreams years and years ago. Your subconscious is clearly more creative than mine. Interesting that you have had “scary dreams”. I don’t think I’ve ever been scared by a dream.

        Some pisshead just tried to scare me (in real life) by shouting “ALRIGHT, MATE!” at the top of his voice. He and his friend were drinking behind a tree in the shadows, so I hadn’t seen them, but I don’t jump or have any sort of fight / fight response, so I just called back “I’m great. How’s it going with you?” They were drunk enough to just laugh, so I left them to it.

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    • 1jaded1 23:48 on April 28, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Hi James. This is most interesting. The responses to the first 4 questions made me laugh. The response to the 5th…idk and am not a psychologist…iatrist…analyst or anything. Sounds like a battle though. Wanting to help and being pecked…Feeling upset in a dream where you wouldn’t be upset if you were awake.

      Since you asked….and not that you may care other than amusement.

      My dreams consist of paranormal. Entities want to eat me. They would starve bc I lost my soul at a very early age. Some want to protect.

      This week has been a cluster fk of nightmares. Tuesday, I dreamt that a lady wanted to kill me bc it should have been me. When I was allowed to make sense , I should have had my face peeled off at the pinball machine. I elected to use the washroom. Total made up dream. I didn’t see anyone’s face peeled off. Maybe a narcissist mask. Maybe I am one.

      The side by sides last night revolved around calls to 911. The leaser of the traumatic had the operator wanting me to verify my date of birth and a newspaper article on the date of me calling… My co-worker passed our.. I asked wtf any purpose that had.

      The more disturbing one had my ex who has NPD beating my parents to a pulp. My sister and I called 911 for2 assaults, but they only sent one ambulance. My dad (who is already deceased) told me he was dying and to have the amby take my mom. Then he died in front of me. I woke up traumatised and called my mom. Lol. It is still sticking hence my response. Subconscious is my ex wants to get back into my life and take agression out on family? Who knows? So disturbing . i want nothing more to do with him.

      Thank you for your post. TMI in my response? Okay. Question was asked..

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      • James 11:06 on April 29, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        Thank you for reading and for your comment. I wonder, do you feel at all better for having written all that? I got a certain cathartic pleasure from writing my dreams out, though yours seem to be more closely connected to the real world and your fears about things going wrong. Have you any reason to think your ex may be trying to get back into your life?

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    • 1jaded1 20:28 on April 29, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      You are welcome. It sometimes helps to release the dreams through writing. My ex is trying to contact me and I am ignoring him.

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      • James 08:51 on April 30, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        That’s a bit unkind of you. Stonewalling, isn’t it? Very cruel 🙂

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    • TypicalCritter 14:36 on September 24, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      You sure have a remarkable ability to recall your dreams. I’m kind of curious whether you made these little dream stories up as a little experiment, to test if the readers interpretations go in the direction you had hoped, or if you are actually describing your own dreams. Anyways, they are pretty facinating either way.

      I’ll do an honest attempt to describe which details I find most interesting. So here we go:

      Dream 1: An animal that normally to detects and avoid predators effortlessly has found it’s way into your room, the bird seems to be fairly confused to begin with and has no idea how to get out. It sees you and attacks instead of trying evade you, also unusual behavior for an escape artist. You try to remove a confused fragile little bird but, a small flash of impulsive agression from your part is all it takes to kill it. Maybe you have had previous experiences where you tried to interact with someone experiencing confusion as well as anxiety or fear and they reacted both too quick and unexpected, before you could figure out an appropriate way to respond.

      Dream 2: The people next door does not seem to be any more rational than that bird. They are not messing around, they make it very clear that they don’t believe what you say, they are convinced you are the source of their misfortune. If they immediately assume you were the reason their house was on fire, does that mean they have been holding a grudge against you for some time without you being aware of it? Could it be that there are a side to those people you weren’t aware of, could they be using the fire as an oppourtunity to both get rid you and find an excuse to tell the insurance company, covering up their own mistakes? Or does their behavior in some ways reflect your impression of people in panic, do they get both irrational and unpredictable?

      Dream 3: These types of dreams sounds like they are more like lucid dreams. You seem to be aware that you are dreaming and you can control, or at least have a strong influence on what happens. I kind of get the impression that they are kind of like a sandbox or videogame where you can interact with the characters and see what happens when you try the different dialogue options. This “sandbox theme” is the only part that sounds more different than what I can relate to personally. The violence part is not particularly psychopathic, even people with the least psychopathic traits can be extremely violent. Non agressive people with no history of violence can have both violent dreams and fantasies, both being a way to maintain behavior.

      Dream 4: Not sure if I understand you properly, do you see yourself unvoluntarily behaving as if you were feeling sadness and grief? Because if you do feel any extent of sadness and grief in your dream, then that happens for real, that part of the brain is not very good at telling the difference between dream or not. Since psychopathic brains seem to have an impaired ability to recall memories of those types of emotions, I can imagine those dreams are pretty confusing if you try to recall them. As you probably know, the current theory is that emotions like sadness, fear, guilt and shame occur more like background noise in psychopathic brains, too weak to have any inpact under normal waking consciousness. Apparently they can get amplified enough to be overwhelming during psychosis, believe it or not.

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    • James 16:38 on September 25, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      They were all true dreams, yes. No fake news here 😉 1and 2 were recent dreams (relative to the publication date), while 3 and 4 are recurring.

      Your interpretations are intriguing, and I especially like the idea of the hysterical neighbours reflecting my impression of panic. Crises and imminent danger are the absolute worst times to get swept up in panic, but I guess the panickers can’t help themselves.

      Just to clarify number 3, most of the violence is committed by other characters in the dream, not by me.

      I did not know that current theory; thanks for sharing. It makes sense actually; I’d never claim to have never felt any of those emotions, just that when I did, they didn’t last very long. From what I understand about guilt and shame, they are more effective when they last longer, and really get a chance to turn the thumbscrew on a person’s conscience.

      I’m kind of curious about your last sentence. Is it that psychopaths find emotions overwhelming when experiencing psychosis, or everyone?

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      • TypicalCritter 08:05 on October 6, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        Regarding number 3, I wasn’t assuming you were taking part in the violence, it’s more that since you describe it as a recurring theme, I kind wonder if you have some facination with violence in general. Are these types of dreams more vivid than average? Just as an experiment, if you were to compare these types of dreams to somewhat similar experiences of watching people getting badly injured in real life, would that make more of an impression on you, or about the same?

        The reason why I’m curious of this is because of a principle explained by Niels Birbaumer, where he states that seeing (for example injury in) other people are more abstract than an intuitive to psychopathic individuals, because (among other things) their ability to form memories of unpleasant bodily experiences is severly impaired. This in turns mess up the developement of an intuitive ability to anticipate painful or unpleasant experiences in both themselves and others, making highly psychopathic individuals in many ways detached from their body (and in a sense, from themselves). So I can imagine feeling vulnerable themselves would be pretty foreign, in childhood this can make (more) careful people pretty confusing to play with. Over time this could be the root cause of an refined ability to spot vulnerability in other people.

        Regarding guildt and shame, you could say that it’s the threat of re-experiencing those unpleasant emotions (ability to anticipate them) that makes up the foundations for developing an intuition for what’s ok to do and what’s not.

        I was explained by someone working in a mental health ward that psychopaths suffering from for example a drug induced psychosis are in no way having an easier time in that state. I don’t know if there has been done any studies on this, so sorry to dissapoint that it’s second hand anecdotal stuff. As you probably know, psychosis is more or less scrambled reality. Sometimes emotional regulation stay fairly intact in some people, other times not. In psychopathic brains an impaired ability to regulate is balanced out by low emotional impulses. In a drug induced psychosis, what happens if those emotional impulses get amplified? Panic and confusion could suddenly become a real thing.

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        • James 13:06 on October 7, 2017 Permalink | Reply

          I’m not sure what kind of life you think I lead where I’m often encountering people getting badly injured. Can’t say that anything springs to mind as being memorable. Other people’s injuries don’t figure so much, except when those injuries prevent the person doing stuff with me we both enjoyed. Idiot friend fell 12ft off a ladder onto concrete so can’t come hiking with me anymore like we used to, so I haven’t got much use for him anymore. You could say “in childhood this can make (more) careful people pretty confusing to play with.” still applies now, but the confusion is now irritation…

          I’m not a “highly psychopathic individual” either. I score 28 on the PCL-R, where the top score is 40 (“highly psychopathic individual”) and the average score among the general population is between 0 and 2. If you’re looking for a real nutter to run experiments on, I’m not your man. We’ve all heard that oft-repeated and possibly made-up anecdote of the psychopathic prisoner being shown pictures of faces exhibiting a variety of emotions. The prisoner performs exceptionally well until shown a fearful face, “Hmm. I’m not sure about this one. I couldn’t put a name to it, but that’s what people look like before I kill them.”

          Thanks for the explanation re: psychosis. It’s pretty cool that you have a contact in a mental health ward.

          Regarding dreams, my mother coincidentally told me about one she had two nights ago. She dreamt I was a murderer, but that dream-James was blissfully unaware of doing anything wrong; while my family were frantically trying to seek legal advice I was just carrying on as normal (dream logic, eh?). She described it as a nightmare that made her skin crawl and woke up badly shaken and relieved.

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          • TypicalCritter 16:56 on October 8, 2017 Permalink | Reply

            Just clear up a few misunderstandings, you don’t strike me as super psychopathic and I was not assuming you were encountering badly injured people frequently. I mean come on, if you live anywhere with a lot of people the chances are pretty high that you will witness something sooner or later. If it makes an impression on you, it could just as well be because you got curious how it happened. I do anyway, I know that part would stick to my memory a lot more than how I might have felt a little unconfortable. Do I think psychopathic traits make a good predictor for violent behavior? Probably not, environment on the other hand, different story. At least my understanding is that it’s really about how the brain process stimuli differently when it comes to psychopathic traits. That’s why I find it interesting to read about how you describe your dreams. I’m not trying to make them fit with personal biased views. Do you see what I’m getting at, and am I completely off track?

            Also I could probably have phrased it differently, better and to my defence I’m not as good at expressing my thinking as you are, lol.

            The example you gave was a pretty good one, so thank you for that and also for taking the time to answer my interpretations. Also your mothers dream was very interesting.

            Another thing, If I thougth you were highly psychopathic I wouldn’t have bothered attempting to interpret those dreams you described. The reason is that I find mild manered people with threshold psychopathy far more interesting to interact with, they see the world differently and they have figured out how to balance the benefits and drawbacks that come with having psychopathic traits.

            Also I find it kind odd that so many people think top politicians or billionares are mostly highly intellegent people with high psychopathic traits and that they are the root cause of everything from wars, finance crises, climate change, capitalism and annoying shitty tv shows. Those theories fail to take into account all the actual dangerous factors in society like ideology, deregulation, structural flaws and the fact that group mentality and shortsighted solutions tend to get the better of us.

            Just to clear up some other biases. Do I know psychopathic people? A few and no, they have not made any trouble for me. I don’t see them as dangerous, that category are reserved for the lunatics with bipolar, schizophrenia, major narcissism and/or APD. I personally have the impression that it’s the right combination of high intelligence, sensitivity to reward, a little APD and maybe a bit of narcissism that makes it easier to reach the top positions in society. Those people are willing to cross boundries, are very fluent in manipulation and don’t look back.

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            • James 19:02 on October 8, 2017 Permalink | Reply

              “Also I find it kind odd that so many people think top politicians or billionares are mostly highly intellegent people with high psychopathic traits and that they are the root cause of everything from wars, finance crises, climate change, capitalism and annoying shitty tv shows. Those theories fail to take into account all the actual dangerous factors in society like ideology, deregulation, structural flaws and the fact that group mentality and shortsighted solutions tend to get the better of us.” You, sir, are a fucking godsend to this site. You’ve probably seen some of the painfully unintelligent stuff some of the other contributors have posted. But you have a nuanced view of things backed by an understanding of geopolitics. I like it.

              So, who am I talking to? You know a bit about me, it only seems courteous to ask about the man or woman of mystery with friends in crazy places. You evidently have an aptitude for psychiatry; is it just an amateur interest like mine, or something more professional?

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              • TypicalCritter 08:06 on October 16, 2017 Permalink | Reply

                It’s just an amateur interest in neurology, pharmacology and genetics. It does help to have a relative with a high degree of narcissism who suffers from varying degree of delusions and has a history of impulsive violence, parasitic lifestyle and manipulating people.

                Just the mix of traits some people mistake for psychopathy, which has reminded me more than a few times how useful it would be if more people would learn to recognise traits in people, acknowledge that they are there, and not get too obsessed with categoric labels like psychopath, narcissistic- or antisocial- personality disorders.

                I also have to give credit to books like “Swimming with sharks” by Joris Luyendijk and Kevin Duttons work for giving me a more nuanced view. Destructive culture/ideology can make most people almost blind to what’s really going on. If you want things to change then change rules of the game, don’t hope for every player to regulate themselves.

                Also it’s very useful to know a bit about neurology and pharmacology when you have the non-hyperactive/impulsive variation of adhd. Which is a very misundestood diagnosis among a lot of health professionals, they often have a hard time when it comes to being able to tell it apart from other conditions. Also it doesn’t help that most people belive in simplified ridiciluous stereotypes perpetuated by media and quackery.

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                • James 13:06 on October 16, 2017 Permalink | Reply

                  It doesn’t help that most people are idiots. You know it to be true.

                  So, I’m guessing you use your knowledge of neurology and pharmacology to speak to health professionals who really should know better (again, idiots), to convince them of the reality of your condition. Does that save on disagreements, or do people just think you’re trying to do their job for them?

                  Amateur interests are often the most worthwhile, given that they don’t carry the same possibility of bias as with a professional or academic (having to reflect your employer’s ethos) or self-interest (wanting to keep your job).

                  Kevin Dutton has (I think – it’s been a while since I read his stuff) proposed that workplaces adapt themselves to work with employees showing psychopathic traits – not bending the rules as such, but by encouraging and rewarding behaviour that is beneficial to the psychopath, which is obviously a must as otherwise nothing productive will get done, and also beneficial to the company / hospital / newspaper / government / whatever.

                  The much-maligned bankers’ bonuses are one industry-specific example of this, but Dutton evokes a more holistic approach: hiring psychopaths to do the sort of job a psychopath would enjoy and be good at, while using rewards to encourage manipulation and aggression in the ‘right’ way (i.e. what is beneficial for the job) and not in the ‘wrong’ way (stealing from the company, bullying workmates).

                  None of this will happen without some kind of educational and cultural revolution however. People are currently too ignorant, and too fearful. Kudos to Dutton and his friend Andy McNab for The Good Psychopath’s Guide to Success.

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  • James 01:26 on March 18, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: bad parenting, blast from the past, , , , , daughter, emotions, , evil kids, , , kids, , , , psycho kids, , , , shaming, , son   

    Interview with the mother of a psychopath 

    In which I interview Tina Taylor about her experiences as a mother of two (Pauleen, a psychopath and Marc, a neurotypical). What she talks about is as interesting as it is important to anyone reading who has a psychopath in the family. The interview was originally conducted last year. 

    Fox

    James Renard: Thank you for agreeing to do this. If I ask a question you don’t like, please just say so rather than making up an answer. Alright, could you briefly state the names and ages of your children, then tell us a little bit about their infancy? 

    Tina Taylor: My children are Pauleen, now 25, and Marc, now 18. Pauleen was a very easy baby. She only cried twice her whole life, and never as an infant. I just put her on a schedule for feeding because she might otherwise starve to death without a peep. I thought I was so lucky because of how easy I had it. She didn’t have terrible twos nor terrible threes. She only had one tantrum (because she wanted something in a store) but I didn’t give in. Starting at age two, she said, and did, some bizarre things out of the blue that stuck in my head – saying things such as, “Mommy, everybody thinks that I’m prettier than you.” I guess it was a competition. Other than that, I thought everything was smooth sailing until she hit age 6 when the lying was noticeable. Marc was a handful as a baby. He cried a lot during the first few months. He was very emotional during his twos and threes, but he did not stress me because he was so loving and cooperative. Starting from age two, he spoke truthfully, and I trust him completely. I did notice during their childhood that Marc’s behavior was markedly different from Pauleen’s. Marc was a difficult baby, but grew to be just such a joyful and helpful person. Pauleen was an easy baby but grew to complaining about everything and making offhand remarks.

    JR: I can imagine even psychopaths are terrible liars at 6. What was the most outrageously unbelievable lie that sticks out in your mind? Also, would you say that even while they were very young, you found it easier to get on with Marc than Pauleen?

    TT: I always had fun with Marc at every age. Pauleen switched from easygoing to impossible at age six. Her first grade teacher evaluated her and she was put on ADHD meds. It only partially helped. She pretended to take the meds and had us wondering why it wasn’t working. Did you know that psychopathy is a form of attention deficit, too? When Pauleen was 4 she said a man came in the apartment and put a knife to her belly. That was the whole story. It was very matter-of-fact, no hysterics, nothing. At the time, I did not know what to make of it.

    JR: No, I didn’t know that about attention deficit, and though I’m not surprised there’s a connection, it might be more a case of psychopathic behaviour being mistaken for ADHD.

    I’m sure it became noticeable to Pauleen that you were more easygoing with Marc. Do you think she may have ever felt less loved than her brother? Might she have been jealous of your closeness to Marc? So when she switched from “easygoing to impossible”, how did you react? Did you feel positive about your ability to overcome the problem or were you lost? How did the way you treated her change? 

    TT: When Marc was just newborn, Pauleen told her grandmother that I don’t love her anymore. Pauleen and I could never develop a closeness because what she did and said made me want to hide from her. Of course she noticed that I was more easy going with Marc as time went by. I was totally lost. I couldn’t understand why. I didn’t even realize how odd it was that she never cried, until she finally cried when she was a teenager and I was dumbstruck. She had never needed comforting her whole life. It looked fake because her face was not stressed, she just had tears. It gave me a weird feeling. The way I treated her was terrible. I could not handle her behavior and I did not know what to do at all. I went to counselling, but I still grew distanced from her every day. We used to sit and watch TV and say absolutely nothing to each other like strangers. This is why psychopathy badly needs to be identified in children. Parents could do a better job than I did at raising a psychopath. Psychopathic adults could advise what their needs were as children. I am very accepting of her psychopathy nowadays, but it is too late. Well, even though I accept that she has a condition that is not her fault, I don’t trust her at all. There is the matter of lying to me and stealing from me that makes me uncomfortable about having her in my home.

    JR: What can I say except thank you for having the courage to share that. It does take courage to admit screwing up as a parent. And gives a lot of context to your work and makes it very easy to see the motivation for your work. 

    So you were parenting from a position of ignorance, through no fault of your own, but you made those mistakes. That you have raised a well-adjusted son is evidence that you are a good mother, but you were completely unprepared to deal with a psychopath. Looking back, what would you have done differently? More importantly, what mistakes did you make that you would bunch together in a list of “don’ts” for other parents of psychopaths? 

    TT: Looking back, had I known that Pauleen had psychopathy, I would not have taken her biting remarks so hard. I would have seen her differently. For the most part, I believe I did a good job of making her mostly prosocial. I always believed in the positive reward system for children instead of punishment, and I did my best to do that. Pauleen especially was more motivated by rewards because the threat of punishment meant nothing to her. I hear now there are studies in the prisons on that philosophy for psychopathic antisocial criminals. I would not say that my son is well-adjusted. He has been living with his psychopath father since he was eleven. His father does rotten things to him and my son is a doormat, just like how I became from being raised by my psychopath father. I am not going into detail about why he lives there, but at the time he started living there, we only saw the mask of Harlan’s good-guy act. A list of don’ts is only one thing – don’t let distancing set in. I would say primarily to parents of psychopaths: Understand that your child is stuck at age 5 emotionally. This means that when the psychopathic child acts selfishly or impulsively, try to remember that it’s their permanent neurological condition.

    JR: No matter how much in the dark you were, there was another person in your daughter’s life who should have understood her better: her father, a psychopath. Were there any signs that he recognised what Pauleen was and had a better idea of what he was doing with her?

    TT: Both Pauleen’s father and step-father are psychopaths. (They are completely different from each other.) Pauleen’s father refused to have anything to do with her until she was 16. That was after he had a stroke. Maybe it changed something. Harlan is Pauleen’s stepfather, and he oddly made her the scapegoat and butt of his jokes. At the time, I thought he was unkind because she was his stepchild. I subconsciously made excuses for him because I was raised in the same type of environment. I did not realize what a dysfunctional family I had until it was too late. Harlan told me, after our separation, that he could not recognize others like him. That was probably a lie.

    JR: We’ve clashed on this 5 year-old thing before (though I think last time you said 2 year-old, so it looks like I’m winning, forcing you to concede years of development!). But the essence of what you’re saying about the permanence of the state is excellent advice. Furthermore they should, as parents, accept and love their child regardless. Everyone else gets a choice. If your friend, colleague, brother, girlfriend etc is a psychopath and you want out, you know where the door is. If your child is a psychopath, tough. You stick with them for as long as they need you. Anyway, since I’ve gone all Fox News and am moralising at the interviewee (I’m thumping the desk as I type), let’s move on…

    TT: Your lack of empathy is quite apparent. What you did is very FOX, in that all of their employees are psychopaths, right? Telling me about how people should stick by their children no matter what is bizarre since you have no frame of reference. It would be considered abusive – it is called shaming. Psychopaths are famous for it. On top of that, you can’t possibly know anything about sticking with someone. You drop people all the time. I’m sure parents give their kids over to foster care all the time because they can’t deal with them. Your lecture on human behavior holds no water. I can’t be shamed anymore. If someone doesn’t like how I do things, that’s their problem, not mine.

    JR: You keep saying “until it was too late” as though someone went on a murder spree because you didn’t act quick enough. You’re not in that shitty relationship anymore, you’ve woken up to reality and nobody’s dead (I assume), so it’s more of a victory for you than some terrible defeat.

    TT: I said it’s too late for 2 reasons: If I had known about the psychopathy at the time that I was dealing with it, I would have tried different things. My daughter had a few neurofeedback sessions to treat her ADHD and that worked very well for improving her self-control. I would have had her continue the sessions longer, and made it a priority in spite of the hardships I was having at the time. My daughter and I might still have a relationship today. Secondly, if I had known about the psychopathy at the time, I would not have felt so bewildered and off-balance by my husband’s peculiar words and actions, and I would not have gotten divorced. I would have dealt with it differently and the kids would not have had to suffer the consequences. Those are things that can’t be undone.

    JR: “I believe I did a good job of making her mostly prosocial.” Tell me about that. What makes her prosocial? And how do you reconcile this confidence in your success with the complete lack of trust in her to not steal your belongings? 

    Pauleen is mostly prosocial. That is a contradiction of sorts because really no psychopath is truly prosocial. You all make your own rules and only pretend to be a part of society. I guess Pauleen plays her part, she works, she goes to college, and she is not a jailbird. But, she has lots of secret antisocial parts, too.

    JR: Don’t we all.

    Thank you, Tina, for taking the time to talk to me. I’m sure the readers will agree you’ve given a fascinating insight into the mind of a psychopath’s mother.

     
    • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 10:01 on March 18, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      I just want to clarify that when I said “The way I treated her was terrible”, that did not mean abuse. I would do things like turn up the car radio when she was talking incessantly, or I would shut myself in my room for hours.

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    • Emily Court 11:43 on March 18, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      I understand what it is like to raise a child with EBD or special needs, and how difficult it is for parents.
      My child had PTSD and severe emotional/behavioral struggles related to trauma, abuse, homelessness and developing an abusive attachment with father at a young age. My child struggled from a young age and father refused, and prevented, me from seeking help or support. We were totally isolated, and forced to keep my child’s behavior a secret… when what was really needed is open-ness, therapy and family support.
      It wasn’t until I fled the abuse that I could seek help.. and by then my child was near a breaking point. My child would bang his head on the wall and tell me he did that because “the pain makes the bad memories go away”. My child was also very violent, would swear at me (as his father did) and would lie, steal and even hurt others or pets. The abusive ex continued to attempt to prevent treatment and therapy by using the family courts… saying my child didn’t need treatment, he only needed to spend time with father.. and falsely accusing me of mental illness to block my attempts to get help. My child disclosed abuse in therapy as well, included being choked and witnessing his sister being inappropriately touched (therapist called CPS).
      What I learned – is that families need support and intensive help for the WHOLE family not just the affected child. I had to devote my time to seeking help for my child, but also had to deal with how the abuse affected me, and our family as a whole. Financial support is also important. My child needed intensive services that included in-home care, and as a parent I had to give so much to work with him.. that it was impossible for me to work. Caring for my child was a full-time job. I had to apply for public assistance and food stamps, and lived in the lowest level of poverty.. but that was what was needed.
      Another thing I learned is that when your child is acting out or having a tantrum or otherwise struggling.. you as a parent also need help or support. Especially if you are a single parent or have a history of abuse. There has to be an outlet for the parent to get non-judgmental, caring support. Or to take time to just take care of themselves. Or to get further educated on your child’s condition, and learning skills and techniques to work with the child. Or to talk and connect with other parents. Respite care or mentorship or support groups for children is really important. NAMI even offers a support group for siblings, that includes giving kids a few hours to play, enjoy a meal, and receive some extra TLC.
      And the last thing I want to say… the family court, CPS, social workers, therapists, educators etc need to be better educated and trained. To include learning from parents and adult children. The system is set up to assign blame, which is not healing and makes things worse. And if the system can not properly identify abuse, children’s lives are put at risk. Intervention is key and professionals can be instrumental in helping families… and assisting in the recovery and treatment of needy children. This may improve outcomes.
      In my situation, the family court awarded SOLE custody to the identified abuser. My child has never fully recovered… his behavior has improved but emotionally, mentally and socially he continues to struggle… but I believe that is because I did seek help, and fought with every breath in my body to address the issues… in my home my child and my family sought help. And for a time we were able to rebuild our lives, I hope he takes that with him.. as he now struggles to survive in an abusive, dysfunctional environment.
      Thank you for sharing! xx

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    • nowve666 13:44 on March 18, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Hey, guys! Nice to see you on the blogosphere again. Tina wrote, “When Marc was just newborn, Pauleen told her grandmother that I don’t love her anymore. Pauleen and I could never develop a closeness because what she did and said made me want to hide from her. Of course she noticed that I was more easy going with Marc as time went by.” My mother had a similar issue with me and my sister but I had no idea until I got access to an interview my mother had with a social worker in which she confided these things to her. I must say, it was a shock. My mom was very good at hiding her true feelings.
      Tina: “I would not say that my son is well-adjusted. He has been living with his psychopath father since he was eleven. His father does rotten things to him and my son is a doormat, just like how I became from being raised by my psychopath father. “His father has custody?” I don’t know the circumstances but, all things being equal, I think the mother should be the one with custody. Call me old-fashioned.
      James wrote, “We’ve clashed on this 5 year-old thing before (though I think last time you said 2 year-old, so it looks like I’m winning, forcing you to concede years of development!).” Oh, I remember that! “The girl I [was looking after at the time of the interview] will be 5 in September and I have considerably more emotional maturity than her [she will be 6 now].” You’ve been looking after a toddler, James? Of course, we are more mature than a five-year-old.
      Tina: “shaming. Psychopaths are famous for it.” So are NTs. I think NTs do it more than we do. “you can’t possibly know anything about sticking with someone.” But we know about sticking it to someone. Will that do? 😉
      Tina: “Pauleen is mostly prosocial. That is a contradiction of sorts because really no psychopath is truly prosocial.” I quite agree! I really don’t like that term.

      My father once said to me, “You didn’t turn out the way I wanted but you turned out the way you wanted and that’s what matters.” I think that was very cool of him.

      Thanks for this interesting discussion.

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    • Amaterasu Solar 19:20 on March 18, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Excellent interview! Thank You both! I was fascinated.

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    • Anon 16:06 on March 24, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Excellent interview.

      I was fascinated by the replies, and even more fascinated by how James was framing you as a ‘bad’ parent.

      ‘Do you think she may have ever felt less loved than her brother?’

      ‘It does take courage to admit screwing up as a parent.’

      ‘Furthermore they should, as parents, accept and love their child regardless.’ (Not true – I’ve read several accounts by parents of Ps about how they tried to feel love but it wasn’t there – no connection. Anyhow, James is just repeating words without understanding the emotions if he’s a P)

      ‘No matter how much in the dark you were, there was another person in your daughter’s life who should have understood her better: her father, a psychopath.’ (Yes, he would have understood exactly how to screw her up)

      Finally, he had fun with the tags, making sure that the very first one (low on the alphabet) was a completely new one, ‘bad parenting’ – oh, and ‘child abuse’ was the third one. Bit of dupers delight going on there I’m sure.

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      • James 18:30 on March 24, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        Hi, Anon. Thanks for reading. Your theories are interesting, but you’re clutching at straws. If I had as devious a mind as that, well then I guess I’d be you, since you came up with all that yourself.

        I don’t expect you to believe me, nor do I care since you’re just stirring the pot and possibly don’t even believe what you’ve written yourself, but Tina knows there’s been about a 18 month gap between this interview being conducted and published. If I were playing the sick little game that you suggest, it wouldn’t have dragged on that long.

        Incidentally, since you’re obsessed about the tags – which by the way are simply there to encourage more search engine hits – you’ll notice I also used “evil kids” and “psycho kids”. Both, along with “child abuse” and “bad parent” are the kind of sensationalist rot more people are going to Google than “Interview with the mother of a psychopath.” But no. You’re right. It’s all just a big nasty joke from the big nasty “P”.

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      • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 05:46 on March 27, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        I agree with your assessments. Psychopaths do psychopathic things. As I have observed my family, it seems to me that they don’t always intend to be awful to others, but they just are, incidentally/accidentally, in order to accomplish their task with blinders on. And, they are not sorry. I have ceased to be shocked or disappointed in “being victimized”, and say to myself, “Well, this is just something a psychopath would do.” I used to agonize over it years ago, before I started learning about psychopathy.

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        • James 18:43 on March 27, 2017 Permalink | Reply

          That’s it, side with the troll. Might have known you wouldn’t back me up. No sense of loyalty at all, and yet I’m the “psychopath”…

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          • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 19:11 on March 27, 2017 Permalink | Reply

            Weird

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            • James 19:19 on March 27, 2017 Permalink | Reply

              What’s weird? That I am disappointed you seem to value the words of an anonymous stranger over those of someone you’ve known for over 2 years? The Anon shared its theory, I rebuked with evidence, but apparently the crazy theory is to be believed over the actual truth.

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              • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 19:21 on March 27, 2017 Permalink | Reply

                Um, ok. Just giving my view and experience and you take it as a personal threat, and taking sides.

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                • James 19:27 on March 27, 2017 Permalink | Reply

                  What I am saying is I would have thought that by now if I laid out my reason for doing something, you would accept is as true. No more or less.

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                  • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 03:01 on March 28, 2017 Permalink | Reply

                    I do accept it as true. Take a closer look.

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                    • James 11:54 on March 28, 2017 Permalink | Reply

                      I would like to know where to look. If you accept Anon’s assessments as true, then implicitly my reply is false in your view, as my reply contradicts Anon’s statement. Either one is true, or neither are, but they can’t both be. Which is it?

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                      • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 11:58 on March 28, 2017 Permalink

                        What my post says is that I agree with her assessments of your actions, but it was not intentional. Just like now, you are unintentionally aggravating me…I’m tired.

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                      • James 12:01 on March 28, 2017 Permalink

                      • James 12:17 on March 28, 2017 Permalink

                        Well?

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                      • James 13:17 on March 28, 2017 Permalink

                        Well that’s slightly better, but still patronising. I am aware of how and why I do things, thank you. And your aggravation is certainly intentional (that’s what happens when you aggravate me, I hit back), just as you seem hell bent on winding me up every few weeks or so. You should just apologise for once in your life, and admit you were wrong.

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                      • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 14:53 on March 28, 2017 Permalink

                        I knew it was intended , I was just checking by playing dumb. I will give you the psychopathic apology. I am so sorry that you were aggravated by whatever the hell I don’t even know nor care and I hope to never do the whatever whenever if I can help it.

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                      • James 16:22 on March 28, 2017 Permalink

                        You’re funny when you’re angry.

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                      • James 16:24 on March 28, 2017 Permalink

                        However, that was still fucking pathetic, and another low blow that wasn’t called for. You do know what aggravated me, and you’re not a psychopath. Even I give a proper apology when I understand why something was wrong. Apology not accepted.

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                      • James 16:28 on March 28, 2017 Permalink

                        Do you admit you got it wrong?

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              • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 03:03 on March 28, 2017 Permalink | Reply

                You are disappointed? I can’t do am u thing about that.

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          • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 19:14 on March 27, 2017 Permalink | Reply

            It’s all about taking sides and “winning”.

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          • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 03:05 on March 28, 2017 Permalink | Reply

            A sense of loyalty? Here’s the shaming, to be expected. Weird, once again.

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            • James 12:01 on March 28, 2017 Permalink | Reply

              No, I expect loyalty to those who I have shown loyalty to. That’s very fair, I think. If you’re incapable of that, then just say so.

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              • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 19:34 on March 28, 2017 Permalink | Reply

                This loyalty thing you want is stupid. I don’t understand loyalty, and I will never care about it. So take that to somebody else.

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                • James 20:31 on March 28, 2017 Permalink | Reply

                  Which explains why your social life seems to be rather empty. No but seriously, if that’s true, you definitely have a personality disorder. Or maybe, as I’ve often suspected, you’re more of a psychopath than you care to admit not just “genetically”, but actually…

                  I am taking it to you, not someone else, and I need you to understand. Put simply, I have been friendly to / stuck up for you in the past, so I expect you to do the same, and not ‘side with’ (yes, I admit it!) the first person to come along and make up a story about me. Do you understand that or not?

                  Honestly, this is not some weird psychopathic demand, pretty much everybody expects a friend to take their side over that of a stranger. It’s not unnatural, and it’s not stupid. If you can’t wrap your head around that, you lose all of your friends pretty quickly (trust me, I’ve done it a fair few times. Now I use disloyalty as a quick way to get rid of someone I’m fed up with) Maybe you don’t care about that either.

                  As for not understanding loyalty, well how did it feel when one of the long-term husbands / whatever the men who gave you children were cheated on you? That was disloyalty to you, a betrayal in other words. How about loyalty to your children? Surely you would support them over pretty much anyone else, barring any games your daughter might be up to.

                  Now what we’re talking about here (your siding with Anon) is more minor than that, but it’s still hurtful.

                  So now have the information, what are you going to do? An apology seems pretty unlikely at this point, but other than that, where will you go? Minimising my feelings? Giving me some pseudo-psychological “that’s what psychopaths do” lecture? Telling me “this shows you don’t understand human emotion, bla bla.” Some non-sequitur like “eww”? Or another “I don’t care, leave me alone” as above? Go on, surprise me. Because at this point, you’re becoming predictable.

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                  • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 20:51 on March 28, 2017 Permalink | Reply

                    Too bad for me, then.

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                    • James 20:52 on March 28, 2017 Permalink | Reply

                      A non-sequitur then. Write a proper answer.

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                      • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 13:01 on March 29, 2017 Permalink

                        No shits given due to psyche problems developed from exposure to psychopaths. Understand yet?

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                      • James 19:46 on March 29, 2017 Permalink

                        I understand what you want me to believe of you, yes. As usual, blaming all your ills on psychopaths, but if an impartial observer were watching us now, who had to decide which one of us was behaving more psycho, I don’t think it would be me!

                        What are you so wary of, that you won’t engage with my previous long comment? You’re normally so keen to argue til the cows come home; that’s why psychopaths like you. If you’re numb and no shits are given, then what’s the worst that could happen? Just play along, humour me my little request to join the conversation.

                        Just as a reminder, because I’m thoughtful like that: “As for not understanding loyalty, well how did it feel when one of the long-term husbands / whatever the men who gave you children were cheated on you? That was disloyalty to you, a betrayal in other words. How about loyalty to your children? Surely you would support them over pretty much anyone else, barring any games your daughter might be up to.”

                        It’s just an extension to the interview really.

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                      • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 19:51 on March 29, 2017 Permalink

                        Loyalty means nothing to a psychopath. Stop pushing this loyalty thing because you look hypocritical and I no longer believe in it because of people like you.

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                      • James 10:42 on March 30, 2017 Permalink

                        Except I’m not hypocritical, as I conform to my own standards of loyalty and treat people how I expect to be treated. I can’t help how people have treated you in the past, nor am I responsible for their behaviour. You don’t know me, so you don’t know what kind of person I am, and you can’t say what means something to me or not. Speak for yourself.

                        If you point me to one occasion where I have betrayed you to a stranger, and taken the side of someone aggravating you, I will hold my hands up and admit to being a hypocrite. But I strongly believe that there has been no such occasion, and what’s more that over the years I have tried my hardest to be fair and friendly towards you, given you advice, gratefully received your advice, made jokes with you, attempted to understand you, though I admit we have had many disagreements and arguments. Like I said, if you can point out a single betrayal of you by me, I promise to drop this matter immediately. But if you can’t, I equally promise to keep pushing this, because you have done me an injustice and I will not accept anything short of an apology.

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                      • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 11:14 on March 30, 2017 Permalink

                        What is ridiculous is that speaking my own mind is considered a betrayal. You’re right, I don’t know you, leave off with the loyalty crap whoever you are.

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                      • James 19:41 on March 31, 2017 Permalink

                        OK, so our conversations meant nothing then. What was the point to them? Jack shit, it seems. I guess there’s no point whatsoever in trying to be your friend, as there’s nothing to be gained but snide comments and insincerity.

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                      • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 22:13 on March 31, 2017 Permalink

                        What is your real name?

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                      • James 14:12 on April 4, 2017 Permalink

                        James, of course. Why use a pseudonym when my real name is already perfect?

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                      • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 03:17 on April 7, 2017 Permalink

                        I still don’t know you. As eloquently as you speak, your disorder is glaringly obvious to me. The point of this blog is to psychopath test politicians, and you are the perfect example for why – their ability to appear sound of mind on the surface. Firstly you would expect my “loyalty”, and then you respond with disbelief in my answers. Insincerity and snide remarks? YOU are the one who owes me an apology. But, guess what, I don’t want one because I expect snakes to be snakes. And as a point of fact, I DO blame psychopaths for all my ills. It is my father who made me dysfunctional.

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                      • James 07:36 on April 8, 2017 Permalink

                        How old are you, late thirties, forty-something? You can’t blame your parents for all your problems forever, take responsibility for yourself and get help if you need it.

                        You can’t alter one nanosecond of the past, but we all have the power to shape our own futures. From my perspective, everyone else spends an inordinate amount of time looking back and ruminating about things that have already happened. I know guilt and difficult emotions get in the way for other people a lot, but surely sometimes it’s better just to draw and line in the sand and let go?

                        As for the rest, when you’ve pinned down just what I’m supposed to be apologising for other than the vague crime of being a psychopath and psychopath = bad, mmkay, do let me know. Third time of asking.

                        You’re often telling me my disorder is “glaringly obvious”. So…? What do you expect me to do with that information? You’ve known what I am, through my own admission, since the very first time we ‘met’, and you’ve been around enough psychopaths to know how I ‘should’ behave, so pretty much any time I do behave in the way you expect, a little bell probably goes off in your head, and you add that bit of behaviour to the list of past behaviour, while disregarding anything which doesn’t fit the mould. It’s called confirmation bias. So what is supposed to
                        be significant about you telling me how obvious I am? Genuine question.

                        Beyond that, you don’t have to ‘know me’; that’s pretty deliberate on my part anyway – as you know – but if you could just do the charitable thing and treat me in the same way I have treated you, that would be grand.

                        As a reminder, I am not your father; nor am I a surrogate onto which you can project all of the negative emotions you rightly feel toward your father.

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                      • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 11:54 on April 8, 2017 Permalink

                        You have no clue.

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                      • James 12:50 on April 8, 2017 Permalink

                        About…? Life in general, presumably 🙂 “The wise man knows himself to be a fool” – a better version of what Socrates may have said.

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                      • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 12:09 on April 9, 2017 Permalink

                        You said: “You can’t blame your parents for all your problems forever, take responsibility for yourself and get help if you need it.” Apparently, you think to blame someone is unhealthy. An abusive person is/was responsible for permanent damage to me physiologically. Me getting “help” does not eliminate his responsibility. Telling me to get help is like telling a homosexual to stop being gay. As for the apology, you don’t owe me because you are a psychopath. You owe me because you accused me. I won’t get one because you are a psychopath. I wasn’t telling you that you are bad, just that you are you. Also, I wasn’t giving you information about your psychopathy being glaringly obvious… I was giving it to the readers to know that they would not recognize it, and they need to conduct psychopathy testing. Treat you in the same way you treat me? What exactly did I do? And hell no, you are not my father. I just spent the last 2 weeks with him and everything was peachy. He’s a psychopath, so what. Just don’t vote him into office.

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                      • James 13:55 on April 12, 2017 Permalink

                        Let me respond to the bits of your comment I accept before moving on to being more argumentative.

                        I’ve clearly badly misread the situation with your father, so my wild theories can be ignored and scorned as you wish 🙂 Though I confess it’s odd to me that you can both simultaneously blame him for everything and want to spend a significant amount of time with him.

                        “Also, I wasn’t giving you information about your psychopathy being glaringly obvious… I was giving it to the readers to know that they would not recognize it.” Absolutely fine, that makes sense. Another good idea would be to spell out what ‘nefarious tactics’ I / another psychopath was using in a given written comment. That would give readers clearer practical examples, and may improve their analytical skills for navigating their own dealings with psychopaths.

                        And now to where we still disagree. I still don’t understand what I’m supposed to be apologising for. My “accusation” was an angry response to your agreement with Anon’s untrue accusation that I was playing a manipulative game with this article (this is “what you did”). I would have thought that my general behaviour and treatment of you thus far (i.e. in the past 2 years) would give you enough of an idea of my character that I wouldn’t stoop to such a tawdry level of trivial games, even (as you speculated) unintentionally. I felt betrayed that you sided with a troll writing lies over a friend’s account of what he was doing. At least, I consider you an online friend. Maybe it’s not mutual. Note that any answer to this with “But you’re a psychopath, so clearly you were manipulating, and now you’re lying to get out of it” is not a convincing answer, as that would be allowing the concept psychopathy as a condition to supersede what I have actually done and written, looking at the label and not the person. To reiterate, I did not do any of the things Anon accused me of, and I would appreciate your recognition of this fact.

                        “Apparently, you think to blame someone is unhealthy.” – not as such. To blame someone for absolutely everything wrong with your life, and by virtue of that belief abdicate all present and future responsibility to change your life, is irrational and absurd. Of course seeking help doesn’t absolve your father’s responsibility, but you don’t seek help in order to punish others, you seek it to enrich yourself.

                        As for your analogy with gays, it doesn’t hold water. Telling a gay person to get help is a form of prejudice, telling someone with mental health problems to get help is common sense.

                        Let’s look at this in a bit more detail. Gay people don’t have a problem, the problem is with certain societal attitudes. The LGBT community doesn’t need help to change who we are, other people need to change their prejudices about us.

                        On the other hand, your psychological damage is a problem, at the very least for you, and possibly for others around you. You’re not responsible for there being a problem, but you do suffer from the problem, so I would have thought you would grasp at any chance you could to try and get out. You can claim it’s “permanent damage” and just leave it at that without even exploring any opportunities for change or consulting doctors with rather more knowledge on the subject of brains than you, but if it were me, I would try everything I could to get help. For example, I don’t just let my brain fuck me over with depression, I have been seeking help from various sources for over a year.Though if you would rather be miserable, that is your privilege 🙂

                        Sorry for the delay, I have lots of work on. I enjoy talking to you.

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                      • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 04:45 on April 13, 2017 Permalink

                        I won’t be discussing my problems, or even try to explain love and family dynamics, so don’t worry your pretty little head. We disagree with each other on your intent to weird me out with your questions. No apologies needed. Maybe you should get help with your anger over trying to control my thoughts on the matter.

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                      • James 05:57 on April 13, 2017 Permalink

                        Alright, no need to be so bloody patronising and rude about it. That’s exactly what I’m talking about! I write a friendly, polite, well-reasoned, albeit certainly overlong comment, and you reply with more provocation and crazy suggestions, which my pretty little head has had enough of.

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                      • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 07:14 on April 13, 2017 Permalink

                        I thought you knew ME by mow.

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                      • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 07:26 on April 13, 2017 Permalink

                        In fact, you have driven me to the crazy. I would speak my mind more on the matter, but it would only infuriate you further because I would be my usual blunt self. Thanks for shutting this thread down already.

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                      • James 10:26 on April 13, 2017 Permalink

                        Have I? That sounds an awful lot like blame shifting. You were making the crazy statements about me long before I pointed them out as such, and I don’t see how I can be held responsible for what you write and say. That’s a textbook manipulative tactic of abusers if ever there was one. “If I act badly, it’s only because you did x, y and z to drive me to misbehave.” Classic.

                        I’m not infuriated, though I will add that your “usual blunt self” is not as incidental as you claim, nor should the people on this blog be forced to endure your bluntness on the pretext of “that’s just who you are”. You would not be “blunt” (i.e. rude) to your customers, colleagues, business associates, otherwise you wouldn’t be in business for long. Presumably you also stay your acid tongue for the most part when with friends, otherwise once again you would be friendless, and I’m sure you’re not that. There is a measure, therefore, to which you choose to be rude and snide to me, and that is unfair, and from my view unwarranted.

                        All I’m asking is a fair exchange of respect among equals; if I’m able to adhere to basic decency in our discussions, then you are too, not being (as I am) afflicted with an overwhelming selfishness and lack of intuitive grasp of morality. It should be a piece of cake, in fact. Mmm, cake.

                        By all means, speak your mind. But there is no reason to be rude as you do it. If you think this is an unreasonable request, then by all means say so, but be prepared to justify yourself.

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                      • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 11:00 on April 13, 2017 Permalink

                        I told you some time ago that I was aggravated, and to leave off, but to no avail. I apologize for unleashing my foul mood upon you and the readers.

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                      • James 13:37 on April 13, 2017 Permalink

                        Thank you, this is appreciated.

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            • James 16:29 on March 28, 2017 Permalink | Reply

              This remains unaddressed. Can I expect better loyalty in the future?

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    • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 19:54 on March 29, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      And for the record, no shits given about James’ childish rantings.

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      • James 10:28 on March 30, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        I may be childish and petty, but I’m hardly ranting. You come across as being stressed out.

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