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  • James 01:26 on March 18, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Interview with the mother of a psychopath 

    In which I interview Tina Taylor about her experiences as a mother of two (Pauleen, a psychopath and Marc, a neurotypical). What she talks about is as interesting as it is important to anyone reading who has a psychopath in the family. The interview was originally conducted last year. 

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    James Renard: Thank you for agreeing to do this. If I ask a question you don’t like, please just say so rather than making up an answer. Alright, could you briefly state the names and ages of your children, then tell us a little bit about their infancy? 

    Tina Taylor: My children are Pauleen, now 25, and Marc, now 18. Pauleen was a very easy baby. She only cried twice her whole life, and never as an infant. I just put her on a schedule for feeding because she might otherwise starve to death without a peep. I thought I was so lucky because of how easy I had it. She didn’t have terrible twos nor terrible threes. She only had one tantrum (because she wanted something in a store) but I didn’t give in. Starting at age two, she said, and did, some bizarre things out of the blue that stuck in my head – saying things such as, “Mommy, everybody thinks that I’m prettier than you.” I guess it was a competition. Other than that, I thought everything was smooth sailing until she hit age 6 when the lying was noticeable. Marc was a handful as a baby. He cried a lot during the first few months. He was very emotional during his twos and threes, but he did not stress me because he was so loving and cooperative. Starting from age two, he spoke truthfully, and I trust him completely. I did notice during their childhood that Marc’s behavior was markedly different from Pauleen’s. Marc was a difficult baby, but grew to be just such a joyful and helpful person. Pauleen was an easy baby but grew to complaining about everything and making offhand remarks.

    JR: I can imagine even psychopaths are terrible liars at 6. What was the most outrageously unbelievable lie that sticks out in your mind? Also, would you say that even while they were very young, you found it easier to get on with Marc than Pauleen?

    TT: I always had fun with Marc at every age. Pauleen switched from easygoing to impossible at age six. Her first grade teacher evaluated her and she was put on ADHD meds. It only partially helped. She pretended to take the meds and had us wondering why it wasn’t working. Did you know that psychopathy is a form of attention deficit, too? When Pauleen was 4 she said a man came in the apartment and put a knife to her belly. That was the whole story. It was very matter-of-fact, no hysterics, nothing. At the time, I did not know what to make of it.

    JR: No, I didn’t know that about attention deficit, and though I’m not surprised there’s a connection, it might be more a case of psychopathic behaviour being mistaken for ADHD.

    I’m sure it became noticeable to Pauleen that you were more easygoing with Marc. Do you think she may have ever felt less loved than her brother? Might she have been jealous of your closeness to Marc? So when she switched from “easygoing to impossible”, how did you react? Did you feel positive about your ability to overcome the problem or were you lost? How did the way you treated her change? 

    TT: When Marc was just newborn, Pauleen told her grandmother that I don’t love her anymore. Pauleen and I could never develop a closeness because what she did and said made me want to hide from her. Of course she noticed that I was more easy going with Marc as time went by. I was totally lost. I couldn’t understand why. I didn’t even realize how odd it was that she never cried, until she finally cried when she was a teenager and I was dumbstruck. She had never needed comforting her whole life. It looked fake because her face was not stressed, she just had tears. It gave me a weird feeling. The way I treated her was terrible. I could not handle her behavior and I did not know what to do at all. I went to counselling, but I still grew distanced from her every day. We used to sit and watch TV and say absolutely nothing to each other like strangers. This is why psychopathy badly needs to be identified in children. Parents could do a better job than I did at raising a psychopath. Psychopathic adults could advise what their needs were as children. I am very accepting of her psychopathy nowadays, but it is too late. Well, even though I accept that she has a condition that is not her fault, I don’t trust her at all. There is the matter of lying to me and stealing from me that makes me uncomfortable about having her in my home.

    JR: What can I say except thank you for having the courage to share that. It does take courage to admit screwing up as a parent. And gives a lot of context to your work and makes it very easy to see the motivation for your work. 

    So you were parenting from a position of ignorance, through no fault of your own, but you made those mistakes. That you have raised a well-adjusted son is evidence that you are a good mother, but you were completely unprepared to deal with a psychopath. Looking back, what would you have done differently? More importantly, what mistakes did you make that you would bunch together in a list of “don’ts” for other parents of psychopaths? 

    TT: Looking back, had I known that Pauleen had psychopathy, I would not have taken her biting remarks so hard. I would have seen her differently. For the most part, I believe I did a good job of making her mostly prosocial. I always believed in the positive reward system for children instead of punishment, and I did my best to do that. Pauleen especially was more motivated by rewards because the threat of punishment meant nothing to her. I hear now there are studies in the prisons on that philosophy for psychopathic antisocial criminals. I would not say that my son is well-adjusted. He has been living with his psychopath father since he was eleven. His father does rotten things to him and my son is a doormat, just like how I became from being raised by my psychopath father. I am not going into detail about why he lives there, but at the time he started living there, we only saw the mask of Harlan’s good-guy act. A list of don’ts is only one thing – don’t let distancing set in. I would say primarily to parents of psychopaths: Understand that your child is stuck at age 5 emotionally. This means that when the psychopathic child acts selfishly or impulsively, try to remember that it’s their permanent neurological condition.

    JR: No matter how much in the dark you were, there was another person in your daughter’s life who should have understood her better: her father, a psychopath. Were there any signs that he recognised what Pauleen was and had a better idea of what he was doing with her?

    TT: Both Pauleen’s father and step-father are psychopaths. (They are completely different from each other.) Pauleen’s father refused to have anything to do with her until she was 16. That was after he had a stroke. Maybe it changed something. Harlan is Pauleen’s stepfather, and he oddly made her the scapegoat and butt of his jokes. At the time, I thought he was unkind because she was his stepchild. I subconsciously made excuses for him because I was raised in the same type of environment. I did not realize what a dysfunctional family I had until it was too late. Harlan told me, after our separation, that he could not recognize others like him. That was probably a lie.

    JR: We’ve clashed on this 5 year-old thing before (though I think last time you said 2 year-old, so it looks like I’m winning, forcing you to concede years of development!). But the essence of what you’re saying about the permanence of the state is excellent advice. Furthermore they should, as parents, accept and love their child regardless. Everyone else gets a choice. If your friend, colleague, brother, girlfriend etc is a psychopath and you want out, you know where the door is. If your child is a psychopath, tough. You stick with them for as long as they need you. Anyway, since I’ve gone all Fox News and am moralising at the interviewee (I’m thumping the desk as I type), let’s move on…

    TT: Your lack of empathy is quite apparent. What you did is very FOX, in that all of their employees are psychopaths, right? Telling me about how people should stick by their children no matter what is bizarre since you have no frame of reference. It would be considered abusive – it is called shaming. Psychopaths are famous for it. On top of that, you can’t possibly know anything about sticking with someone. You drop people all the time. I’m sure parents give their kids over to foster care all the time because they can’t deal with them. Your lecture on human behavior holds no water. I can’t be shamed anymore. If someone doesn’t like how I do things, that’s their problem, not mine.

    JR: You keep saying “until it was too late” as though someone went on a murder spree because you didn’t act quick enough. You’re not in that shitty relationship anymore, you’ve woken up to reality and nobody’s dead (I assume), so it’s more of a victory for you than some terrible defeat.

    TT: I said it’s too late for 2 reasons: If I had known about the psychopathy at the time that I was dealing with it, I would have tried different things. My daughter had a few neurofeedback sessions to treat her ADHD and that worked very well for improving her self-control. I would have had her continue the sessions longer, and made it a priority in spite of the hardships I was having at the time. My daughter and I might still have a relationship today. Secondly, if I had known about the psychopathy at the time, I would not have felt so bewildered and off-balance by my husband’s peculiar words and actions, and I would not have gotten divorced. I would have dealt with it differently and the kids would not have had to suffer the consequences. Those are things that can’t be undone.

    JR: “I believe I did a good job of making her mostly prosocial.” Tell me about that. What makes her prosocial? And how do you reconcile this confidence in your success with the complete lack of trust in her to not steal your belongings? 

    Pauleen is mostly prosocial. That is a contradiction of sorts because really no psychopath is truly prosocial. You all make your own rules and only pretend to be a part of society. I guess Pauleen plays her part, she works, she goes to college, and she is not a jailbird. But, she has lots of secret antisocial parts, too.

    JR: Don’t we all.

    Thank you, Tina, for taking the time to talk to me. I’m sure the readers will agree you’ve given a fascinating insight into the mind of a psychopath’s mother.

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    • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 10:01 on March 18, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      I just want to clarify that when I said “The way I treated her was terrible”, that did not mean abuse. I would do things like turn up the car radio when she was talking incessantly, or I would shut myself in my room for hours.

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    • Emily Court 11:43 on March 18, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      I understand what it is like to raise a child with EBD or special needs, and how difficult it is for parents.
      My child had PTSD and severe emotional/behavioral struggles related to trauma, abuse, homelessness and developing an abusive attachment with father at a young age. My child struggled from a young age and father refused, and prevented, me from seeking help or support. We were totally isolated, and forced to keep my child’s behavior a secret… when what was really needed is open-ness, therapy and family support.
      It wasn’t until I fled the abuse that I could seek help.. and by then my child was near a breaking point. My child would bang his head on the wall and tell me he did that because “the pain makes the bad memories go away”. My child was also very violent, would swear at me (as his father did) and would lie, steal and even hurt others or pets. The abusive ex continued to attempt to prevent treatment and therapy by using the family courts… saying my child didn’t need treatment, he only needed to spend time with father.. and falsely accusing me of mental illness to block my attempts to get help. My child disclosed abuse in therapy as well, included being choked and witnessing his sister being inappropriately touched (therapist called CPS).
      What I learned – is that families need support and intensive help for the WHOLE family not just the affected child. I had to devote my time to seeking help for my child, but also had to deal with how the abuse affected me, and our family as a whole. Financial support is also important. My child needed intensive services that included in-home care, and as a parent I had to give so much to work with him.. that it was impossible for me to work. Caring for my child was a full-time job. I had to apply for public assistance and food stamps, and lived in the lowest level of poverty.. but that was what was needed.
      Another thing I learned is that when your child is acting out or having a tantrum or otherwise struggling.. you as a parent also need help or support. Especially if you are a single parent or have a history of abuse. There has to be an outlet for the parent to get non-judgmental, caring support. Or to take time to just take care of themselves. Or to get further educated on your child’s condition, and learning skills and techniques to work with the child. Or to talk and connect with other parents. Respite care or mentorship or support groups for children is really important. NAMI even offers a support group for siblings, that includes giving kids a few hours to play, enjoy a meal, and receive some extra TLC.
      And the last thing I want to say… the family court, CPS, social workers, therapists, educators etc need to be better educated and trained. To include learning from parents and adult children. The system is set up to assign blame, which is not healing and makes things worse. And if the system can not properly identify abuse, children’s lives are put at risk. Intervention is key and professionals can be instrumental in helping families… and assisting in the recovery and treatment of needy children. This may improve outcomes.
      In my situation, the family court awarded SOLE custody to the identified abuser. My child has never fully recovered… his behavior has improved but emotionally, mentally and socially he continues to struggle… but I believe that is because I did seek help, and fought with every breath in my body to address the issues… in my home my child and my family sought help. And for a time we were able to rebuild our lives, I hope he takes that with him.. as he now struggles to survive in an abusive, dysfunctional environment.
      Thank you for sharing! xx

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    • nowve666 13:44 on March 18, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Hey, guys! Nice to see you on the blogosphere again. Tina wrote, “When Marc was just newborn, Pauleen told her grandmother that I don’t love her anymore. Pauleen and I could never develop a closeness because what she did and said made me want to hide from her. Of course she noticed that I was more easy going with Marc as time went by.” My mother had a similar issue with me and my sister but I had no idea until I got access to an interview my mother had with a social worker in which she confided these things to her. I must say, it was a shock. My mom was very good at hiding her true feelings.
      Tina: “I would not say that my son is well-adjusted. He has been living with his psychopath father since he was eleven. His father does rotten things to him and my son is a doormat, just like how I became from being raised by my psychopath father. “His father has custody?” I don’t know the circumstances but, all things being equal, I think the mother should be the one with custody. Call me old-fashioned.
      James wrote, “We’ve clashed on this 5 year-old thing before (though I think last time you said 2 year-old, so it looks like I’m winning, forcing you to concede years of development!).” Oh, I remember that! “The girl I [was looking after at the time of the interview] will be 5 in September and I have considerably more emotional maturity than her [she will be 6 now].” You’ve been looking after a toddler, James? Of course, we are more mature than a five-year-old.
      Tina: “shaming. Psychopaths are famous for it.” So are NTs. I think NTs do it more than we do. “you can’t possibly know anything about sticking with someone.” But we know about sticking it to someone. Will that do? 😉
      Tina: “Pauleen is mostly prosocial. That is a contradiction of sorts because really no psychopath is truly prosocial.” I quite agree! I really don’t like that term.

      My father once said to me, “You didn’t turn out the way I wanted but you turned out the way you wanted and that’s what matters.” I think that was very cool of him.

      Thanks for this interesting discussion.

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    • Amaterasu Solar 19:20 on March 18, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Excellent interview! Thank You both! I was fascinated.

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    • Anon 16:06 on March 24, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Excellent interview.

      I was fascinated by the replies, and even more fascinated by how James was framing you as a ‘bad’ parent.

      ‘Do you think she may have ever felt less loved than her brother?’

      ‘It does take courage to admit screwing up as a parent.’

      ‘Furthermore they should, as parents, accept and love their child regardless.’ (Not true – I’ve read several accounts by parents of Ps about how they tried to feel love but it wasn’t there – no connection. Anyhow, James is just repeating words without understanding the emotions if he’s a P)

      ‘No matter how much in the dark you were, there was another person in your daughter’s life who should have understood her better: her father, a psychopath.’ (Yes, he would have understood exactly how to screw her up)

      Finally, he had fun with the tags, making sure that the very first one (low on the alphabet) was a completely new one, ‘bad parenting’ – oh, and ‘child abuse’ was the third one. Bit of dupers delight going on there I’m sure.

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      • James 18:30 on March 24, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        Hi, Anon. Thanks for reading. Your theories are interesting, but you’re clutching at straws. If I had as devious a mind as that, well then I guess I’d be you, since you came up with all that yourself.

        I don’t expect you to believe me, nor do I care since you’re just stirring the pot and possibly don’t even believe what you’ve written yourself, but Tina knows there’s been about a 18 month gap between this interview being conducted and published. If I were playing the sick little game that you suggest, it wouldn’t have dragged on that long.

        Incidentally, since you’re obsessed about the tags – which by the way are simply there to encourage more search engine hits – you’ll notice I also used “evil kids” and “psycho kids”. Both, along with “child abuse” and “bad parent” are the kind of sensationalist rot more people are going to Google than “Interview with the mother of a psychopath.” But no. You’re right. It’s all just a big nasty joke from the big nasty “P”.

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      • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 05:46 on March 27, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        I agree with your assessments. Psychopaths do psychopathic things. As I have observed my family, it seems to me that they don’t always intend to be awful to others, but they just are, incidentally/accidentally, in order to accomplish their task with blinders on. And, they are not sorry. I have ceased to be shocked or disappointed in “being victimized”, and say to myself, “Well, this is just something a psychopath would do.” I used to agonize over it years ago, before I started learning about psychopathy.

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        • James 18:43 on March 27, 2017 Permalink | Reply

          That’s it, side with the troll. Might have known you wouldn’t back me up. No sense of loyalty at all, and yet I’m the “psychopath”…

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          • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 19:11 on March 27, 2017 Permalink | Reply

            Weird

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            • James 19:19 on March 27, 2017 Permalink | Reply

              What’s weird? That I am disappointed you seem to value the words of an anonymous stranger over those of someone you’ve known for over 2 years? The Anon shared its theory, I rebuked with evidence, but apparently the crazy theory is to be believed over the actual truth.

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              • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 19:21 on March 27, 2017 Permalink | Reply

                Um, ok. Just giving my view and experience and you take it as a personal threat, and taking sides.

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                • James 19:27 on March 27, 2017 Permalink | Reply

                  What I am saying is I would have thought that by now if I laid out my reason for doing something, you would accept is as true. No more or less.

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                  • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 03:01 on March 28, 2017 Permalink | Reply

                    I do accept it as true. Take a closer look.

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                    • James 11:54 on March 28, 2017 Permalink | Reply

                      I would like to know where to look. If you accept Anon’s assessments as true, then implicitly my reply is false in your view, as my reply contradicts Anon’s statement. Either one is true, or neither are, but they can’t both be. Which is it?

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                      • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 11:58 on March 28, 2017 Permalink

                        What my post says is that I agree with her assessments of your actions, but it was not intentional. Just like now, you are unintentionally aggravating me…I’m tired.

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                      • James 12:01 on March 28, 2017 Permalink

                      • James 12:17 on March 28, 2017 Permalink

                        Well?

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                      • James 13:17 on March 28, 2017 Permalink

                        Well that’s slightly better, but still patronising. I am aware of how and why I do things, thank you. And your aggravation is certainly intentional (that’s what happens when you aggravate me, I hit back), just as you seem hell bent on winding me up every few weeks or so. You should just apologise for once in your life, and admit you were wrong.

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                      • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 14:53 on March 28, 2017 Permalink

                        I knew it was intended , I was just checking by playing dumb. I will give you the psychopathic apology. I am so sorry that you were aggravated by whatever the hell I don’t even know nor care and I hope to never do the whatever whenever if I can help it.

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                      • James 16:22 on March 28, 2017 Permalink

                        You’re funny when you’re angry.

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                      • James 16:24 on March 28, 2017 Permalink

                        However, that was still fucking pathetic, and another low blow that wasn’t called for. You do know what aggravated me, and you’re not a psychopath. Even I give a proper apology when I understand why something was wrong. Apology not accepted.

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                      • James 16:28 on March 28, 2017 Permalink

                        Do you admit you got it wrong?

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              • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 03:03 on March 28, 2017 Permalink | Reply

                You are disappointed? I can’t do am u thing about that.

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          • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 19:14 on March 27, 2017 Permalink | Reply

            It’s all about taking sides and “winning”.

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          • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 03:05 on March 28, 2017 Permalink | Reply

            A sense of loyalty? Here’s the shaming, to be expected. Weird, once again.

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            • James 12:01 on March 28, 2017 Permalink | Reply

              No, I expect loyalty to those who I have shown loyalty to. That’s very fair, I think. If you’re incapable of that, then just say so.

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              • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 19:34 on March 28, 2017 Permalink | Reply

                This loyalty thing you want is stupid. I don’t understand loyalty, and I will never care about it. So take that to somebody else.

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                • James 20:31 on March 28, 2017 Permalink | Reply

                  Which explains why your social life seems to be rather empty. No but seriously, if that’s true, you definitely have a personality disorder. Or maybe, as I’ve often suspected, you’re more of a psychopath than you care to admit not just “genetically”, but actually…

                  I am taking it to you, not someone else, and I need you to understand. Put simply, I have been friendly to / stuck up for you in the past, so I expect you to do the same, and not ‘side with’ (yes, I admit it!) the first person to come along and make up a story about me. Do you understand that or not?

                  Honestly, this is not some weird psychopathic demand, pretty much everybody expects a friend to take their side over that of a stranger. It’s not unnatural, and it’s not stupid. If you can’t wrap your head around that, you lose all of your friends pretty quickly (trust me, I’ve done it a fair few times. Now I use disloyalty as a quick way to get rid of someone I’m fed up with) Maybe you don’t care about that either.

                  As for not understanding loyalty, well how did it feel when one of the long-term husbands / whatever the men who gave you children were cheated on you? That was disloyalty to you, a betrayal in other words. How about loyalty to your children? Surely you would support them over pretty much anyone else, barring any games your daughter might be up to.

                  Now what we’re talking about here (your siding with Anon) is more minor than that, but it’s still hurtful.

                  So now have the information, what are you going to do? An apology seems pretty unlikely at this point, but other than that, where will you go? Minimising my feelings? Giving me some pseudo-psychological “that’s what psychopaths do” lecture? Telling me “this shows you don’t understand human emotion, bla bla.” Some non-sequitur like “eww”? Or another “I don’t care, leave me alone” as above? Go on, surprise me. Because at this point, you’re becoming predictable.

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                  • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 20:51 on March 28, 2017 Permalink | Reply

                    Too bad for me, then.

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                    • James 20:52 on March 28, 2017 Permalink | Reply

                      A non-sequitur then. Write a proper answer.

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                      • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 13:01 on March 29, 2017 Permalink

                        No shits given due to psyche problems developed from exposure to psychopaths. Understand yet?

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                      • James 19:46 on March 29, 2017 Permalink

                        I understand what you want me to believe of you, yes. As usual, blaming all your ills on psychopaths, but if an impartial observer were watching us now, who had to decide which one of us was behaving more psycho, I don’t think it would be me!

                        What are you so wary of, that you won’t engage with my previous long comment? You’re normally so keen to argue til the cows come home; that’s why psychopaths like you. If you’re numb and no shits are given, then what’s the worst that could happen? Just play along, humour me my little request to join the conversation.

                        Just as a reminder, because I’m thoughtful like that: “As for not understanding loyalty, well how did it feel when one of the long-term husbands / whatever the men who gave you children were cheated on you? That was disloyalty to you, a betrayal in other words. How about loyalty to your children? Surely you would support them over pretty much anyone else, barring any games your daughter might be up to.”

                        It’s just an extension to the interview really.

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                      • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 19:51 on March 29, 2017 Permalink

                        Loyalty means nothing to a psychopath. Stop pushing this loyalty thing because you look hypocritical and I no longer believe in it because of people like you.

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                      • James 10:42 on March 30, 2017 Permalink

                        Except I’m not hypocritical, as I conform to my own standards of loyalty and treat people how I expect to be treated. I can’t help how people have treated you in the past, nor am I responsible for their behaviour. You don’t know me, so you don’t know what kind of person I am, and you can’t say what means something to me or not. Speak for yourself.

                        If you point me to one occasion where I have betrayed you to a stranger, and taken the side of someone aggravating you, I will hold my hands up and admit to being a hypocrite. But I strongly believe that there has been no such occasion, and what’s more that over the years I have tried my hardest to be fair and friendly towards you, given you advice, gratefully received your advice, made jokes with you, attempted to understand you, though I admit we have had many disagreements and arguments. Like I said, if you can point out a single betrayal of you by me, I promise to drop this matter immediately. But if you can’t, I equally promise to keep pushing this, because you have done me an injustice and I will not accept anything short of an apology.

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                      • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 11:14 on March 30, 2017 Permalink

                        What is ridiculous is that speaking my own mind is considered a betrayal. You’re right, I don’t know you, leave off with the loyalty crap whoever you are.

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                      • James 19:41 on March 31, 2017 Permalink

                        OK, so our conversations meant nothing then. What was the point to them? Jack shit, it seems. I guess there’s no point whatsoever in trying to be your friend, as there’s nothing to be gained but snide comments and insincerity.

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                      • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 22:13 on March 31, 2017 Permalink

                        What is your real name?

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                      • James 14:12 on April 4, 2017 Permalink

                        James, of course. Why use a pseudonym when my real name is already perfect?

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                      • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 03:17 on April 7, 2017 Permalink

                        I still don’t know you. As eloquently as you speak, your disorder is glaringly obvious to me. The point of this blog is to psychopath test politicians, and you are the perfect example for why – their ability to appear sound of mind on the surface. Firstly you would expect my “loyalty”, and then you respond with disbelief in my answers. Insincerity and snide remarks? YOU are the one who owes me an apology. But, guess what, I don’t want one because I expect snakes to be snakes. And as a point of fact, I DO blame psychopaths for all my ills. It is my father who made me dysfunctional.

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                      • James 07:36 on April 8, 2017 Permalink

                        How old are you, late thirties, forty-something? You can’t blame your parents for all your problems forever, take responsibility for yourself and get help if you need it.

                        You can’t alter one nanosecond of the past, but we all have the power to shape our own futures. From my perspective, everyone else spends an inordinate amount of time looking back and ruminating about things that have already happened. I know guilt and difficult emotions get in the way for other people a lot, but surely sometimes it’s better just to draw and line in the sand and let go?

                        As for the rest, when you’ve pinned down just what I’m supposed to be apologising for other than the vague crime of being a psychopath and psychopath = bad, mmkay, do let me know. Third time of asking.

                        You’re often telling me my disorder is “glaringly obvious”. So…? What do you expect me to do with that information? You’ve known what I am, through my own admission, since the very first time we ‘met’, and you’ve been around enough psychopaths to know how I ‘should’ behave, so pretty much any time I do behave in the way you expect, a little bell probably goes off in your head, and you add that bit of behaviour to the list of past behaviour, while disregarding anything which doesn’t fit the mould. It’s called confirmation bias. So what is supposed to
                        be significant about you telling me how obvious I am? Genuine question.

                        Beyond that, you don’t have to ‘know me’; that’s pretty deliberate on my part anyway – as you know – but if you could just do the charitable thing and treat me in the same way I have treated you, that would be grand.

                        As a reminder, I am not your father; nor am I a surrogate onto which you can project all of the negative emotions you rightly feel toward your father.

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                      • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 11:54 on April 8, 2017 Permalink

                        You have no clue.

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                      • James 12:50 on April 8, 2017 Permalink

                        About…? Life in general, presumably 🙂 “The wise man knows himself to be a fool” – a better version of what Socrates may have said.

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                      • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 12:09 on April 9, 2017 Permalink

                        You said: “You can’t blame your parents for all your problems forever, take responsibility for yourself and get help if you need it.” Apparently, you think to blame someone is unhealthy. An abusive person is/was responsible for permanent damage to me physiologically. Me getting “help” does not eliminate his responsibility. Telling me to get help is like telling a homosexual to stop being gay. As for the apology, you don’t owe me because you are a psychopath. You owe me because you accused me. I won’t get one because you are a psychopath. I wasn’t telling you that you are bad, just that you are you. Also, I wasn’t giving you information about your psychopathy being glaringly obvious… I was giving it to the readers to know that they would not recognize it, and they need to conduct psychopathy testing. Treat you in the same way you treat me? What exactly did I do? And hell no, you are not my father. I just spent the last 2 weeks with him and everything was peachy. He’s a psychopath, so what. Just don’t vote him into office.

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                      • James 13:55 on April 12, 2017 Permalink

                        Let me respond to the bits of your comment I accept before moving on to being more argumentative.

                        I’ve clearly badly misread the situation with your father, so my wild theories can be ignored and scorned as you wish 🙂 Though I confess it’s odd to me that you can both simultaneously blame him for everything and want to spend a significant amount of time with him.

                        “Also, I wasn’t giving you information about your psychopathy being glaringly obvious… I was giving it to the readers to know that they would not recognize it.” Absolutely fine, that makes sense. Another good idea would be to spell out what ‘nefarious tactics’ I / another psychopath was using in a given written comment. That would give readers clearer practical examples, and may improve their analytical skills for navigating their own dealings with psychopaths.

                        And now to where we still disagree. I still don’t understand what I’m supposed to be apologising for. My “accusation” was an angry response to your agreement with Anon’s untrue accusation that I was playing a manipulative game with this article (this is “what you did”). I would have thought that my general behaviour and treatment of you thus far (i.e. in the past 2 years) would give you enough of an idea of my character that I wouldn’t stoop to such a tawdry level of trivial games, even (as you speculated) unintentionally. I felt betrayed that you sided with a troll writing lies over a friend’s account of what he was doing. At least, I consider you an online friend. Maybe it’s not mutual. Note that any answer to this with “But you’re a psychopath, so clearly you were manipulating, and now you’re lying to get out of it” is not a convincing answer, as that would be allowing the concept psychopathy as a condition to supersede what I have actually done and written, looking at the label and not the person. To reiterate, I did not do any of the things Anon accused me of, and I would appreciate your recognition of this fact.

                        “Apparently, you think to blame someone is unhealthy.” – not as such. To blame someone for absolutely everything wrong with your life, and by virtue of that belief abdicate all present and future responsibility to change your life, is irrational and absurd. Of course seeking help doesn’t absolve your father’s responsibility, but you don’t seek help in order to punish others, you seek it to enrich yourself.

                        As for your analogy with gays, it doesn’t hold water. Telling a gay person to get help is a form of prejudice, telling someone with mental health problems to get help is common sense.

                        Let’s look at this in a bit more detail. Gay people don’t have a problem, the problem is with certain societal attitudes. The LGBT community doesn’t need help to change who we are, other people need to change their prejudices about us.

                        On the other hand, your psychological damage is a problem, at the very least for you, and possibly for others around you. You’re not responsible for there being a problem, but you do suffer from the problem, so I would have thought you would grasp at any chance you could to try and get out. You can claim it’s “permanent damage” and just leave it at that without even exploring any opportunities for change or consulting doctors with rather more knowledge on the subject of brains than you, but if it were me, I would try everything I could to get help. For example, I don’t just let my brain fuck me over with depression, I have been seeking help from various sources for over a year.Though if you would rather be miserable, that is your privilege 🙂

                        Sorry for the delay, I have lots of work on. I enjoy talking to you.

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                      • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 04:45 on April 13, 2017 Permalink

                        I won’t be discussing my problems, or even try to explain love and family dynamics, so don’t worry your pretty little head. We disagree with each other on your intent to weird me out with your questions. No apologies needed. Maybe you should get help with your anger over trying to control my thoughts on the matter.

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                      • James 05:57 on April 13, 2017 Permalink

                        Alright, no need to be so bloody patronising and rude about it. That’s exactly what I’m talking about! I write a friendly, polite, well-reasoned, albeit certainly overlong comment, and you reply with more provocation and crazy suggestions, which my pretty little head has had enough of.

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                      • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 07:14 on April 13, 2017 Permalink

                        I thought you knew ME by mow.

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                      • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 07:26 on April 13, 2017 Permalink

                        In fact, you have driven me to the crazy. I would speak my mind more on the matter, but it would only infuriate you further because I would be my usual blunt self. Thanks for shutting this thread down already.

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                      • James 10:26 on April 13, 2017 Permalink

                        Have I? That sounds an awful lot like blame shifting. You were making the crazy statements about me long before I pointed them out as such, and I don’t see how I can be held responsible for what you write and say. That’s a textbook manipulative tactic of abusers if ever there was one. “If I act badly, it’s only because you did x, y and z to drive me to misbehave.” Classic.

                        I’m not infuriated, though I will add that your “usual blunt self” is not as incidental as you claim, nor should the people on this blog be forced to endure your bluntness on the pretext of “that’s just who you are”. You would not be “blunt” (i.e. rude) to your customers, colleagues, business associates, otherwise you wouldn’t be in business for long. Presumably you also stay your acid tongue for the most part when with friends, otherwise once again you would be friendless, and I’m sure you’re not that. There is a measure, therefore, to which you choose to be rude and snide to me, and that is unfair, and from my view unwarranted.

                        All I’m asking is a fair exchange of respect among equals; if I’m able to adhere to basic decency in our discussions, then you are too, not being (as I am) afflicted with an overwhelming selfishness and lack of intuitive grasp of morality. It should be a piece of cake, in fact. Mmm, cake.

                        By all means, speak your mind. But there is no reason to be rude as you do it. If you think this is an unreasonable request, then by all means say so, but be prepared to justify yourself.

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                      • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 11:00 on April 13, 2017 Permalink

                        I told you some time ago that I was aggravated, and to leave off, but to no avail. I apologize for unleashing my foul mood upon you and the readers.

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                      • James 13:37 on April 13, 2017 Permalink

                        Thank you, this is appreciated.

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            • James 16:29 on March 28, 2017 Permalink | Reply

              This remains unaddressed. Can I expect better loyalty in the future?

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    • GeneticPsychosMom (Tina) 19:54 on March 29, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      And for the record, no shits given about James’ childish rantings.

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      • James 10:28 on March 30, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        I may be childish and petty, but I’m hardly ranting. You come across as being stressed out.

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  • James 11:46 on October 15, 2015 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: Bliar, capitalism, congress, , , devolution, equality, , Give peace (and Corbyn) a chance, Good Friday Agreement, , greedy fat cats, , I'm back baby!, James is da bomb, , , , , parliament, , , , , , senate, socialism, , , Tony Blair, , Washington, Westminster   

    The case against MRI scans 

    Long time, no post. Did you miss me?

    (answer: no, we forgot you ever existed)

    To get to the single most important reason why MRI scans mustn’t be used against psychopaths in politics, scroll down a little less than half way, and it’s all there in bold. 

    For some time, this blog and its related projects have been advocating the compulsory MRI-scanning of all politicians in America (and presumably the world) to make sure they are not psychopaths. Any psychopaths that are found are to be forcibly removed from office because, you know, they’re bound to make evil screw-ups of leaders.

    Well I say it’s only fair that the other side gets a hearing.

    Let’s set some things straight. I hate authoritarianism. I hate corruption. I hate power politics and the class of people who think it’s their right to lord it over the rest of us, to erode citizens’ powers and turn once-great democracies into corporate states. I am an advocate for people-power and for resistance against all forms of tyranny. I am also a psychopath. And, even more crucially, I am against MRI scans for politicians.

    Viva la revolución

    I have an argument for this, sure, but let me first share with you the views of a friend of mine:

    No matter how bad a choice voters make, the elected official is still the one to enact good or bad governance. A good example is Obama. He seemed like an excellent choice based on his campaign. But a very different Obama stepped into office and did things that were, in many ways, opposite of what he promised. Is this because he is a “psychopath?” And, more importantly, does it even matter? Politicians often act corruptly. They don’t keep their campaign promises. I don’t really care if the man is a psychopath or an NT (neurologically typical). He betrayed his base. Why do politicians so often do this? I suggest that even if we brain scanned all candidates and only elected NTs to office, things would go on the same way they have all along.

    There is a class of people the Occupy Movement nailed. The 1%. The richest one percent of our society has more wealth the the whole rest of us 99% put together. Money is power. The one percent will not tolerate a politician who is too intent on rocking the boat. They will either buy him or get rid of him. Getting rid of someone does not have to mean killing him. Just bestow enormous amounts of cash on the person’s opponent. Mischief managed.

    (…)

    Many people have studied the problem. Marxists, for example, tell us that revolution is the only solution. The problem is capitalism. Sounds good. It doesn’t look like any of us will live to see a revolution. But who knows, surprise lurks around every corner. Hope is all we have after all.

    So Fran (my friend who is the author of the above text) points out that the problem with today’s politics is it is directed by the so-called one percent. The bankers, the CEOs, capitalists at their very worst. It doesn’t matter who’s in political office as long as they run the show, because nothing ever changes.

    I am not totally sold on this argument because I do think we can live with capitalism and I’m not holding out for a revolution. And I do think that as long as politicians are not greedy or corrupt, there is no way any corporation can assert its dominance over a government. Maybe that’s asking too much! But I think we can all agree that we should aim for the majority of our democratic representatives to be of good character. With this in mind, it is important to stipulate that how psychopathic some politicians are is not an indicator of how undemocratic or corrupt a government is. Neurotypicals are corruptible too. Some of you probably call these people “apaths” or maybe even “flying monkeys”, I just call them human. Ordinary human beings with no pathology to speak of are sometimes bad people. This is a fact.

    But let’s not get too bogged down with blame-shifting, after all I want to write a positive piece about why psychopaths might make good political leaders.

    My argument (the really important bit)
    In a democracy, where citizens are equal under the law, we all have the right to shape our society, either through voting or becoming directly involved in politics. To deny some portion of the population (i.e. psychopaths) that right (i.e. by excluding them from politics based on an MRI scan) is profoundly undemocratic and anti-egalitarian.
    In Britain, and the rest of the European Union, such a move would be illegal under the European Convention of Human Rights. In the United States, it would even be unconstitutional. Think about it. Substitute ‘psychopath’ for any other minority you can think of and imagine a law that forbids them from full political participation.
    Such a penalisation is nothing less than taking a demolition ball to democracy and destroying any hope for future equality and good relations between psychopaths and the general population. In turn, this has the potential to open the floodgates for the total exclusion, not only of psychopaths but of anybody deemed to have an “unsatisfactory” mental state, from whatever role in society anybody cares to come up with.

    But let’s put that aside for now, and instead examine the reason given for psychopaths being excluded from politics. Tina Taylor says “Policymakers who don’t have the ability to empathise when they are making decisions are naturally limited.” (and yes, that is a direct quote; Tina and I are friends, so naturally we have discussed this issue before). To me that sounds an awful lot like the argument people used to make about women or black people in politics. It is a patronising and insidious way to justify the poor treatment of others.

    And it is not true. From my perspective, not being able to easily empathise (let’s not forget that psychopaths do have empathy, so if empathy really is essential to politics, psychopaths are no more limited than anyone else) is an advantage rather than a limitation. Rather than relying on my emotions or my empathetic concern for others, I make decisions based on logic. Using the critical thinking that I have learned both from experience and my education, I weigh up all the pros and cons of every possible outcome and choose the outcome with the most pros and fewest cons. As a psychopath, I will not get de-railed by angst or self-doubt during an emotionally difficult decision. For instance:

    Psychopaths have no trouble dealing with the really tough questions politicians are faced with all the time. And they make the right decision more often than not, because they are logically compelled to do so. If you examine the professions which have the most psychopaths, you don’t just see fat cat CEOs and stockbrokers, you see lawyers, surgeons, journalists, members of the clergy, police officers, and… you guessed it, politicians! Everyone assumes that is a bad thing, and that psychopaths only excel in these jobs because of their conniving, back-stabbing ways, but if that were true, wouldn’t psychopaths be in senior positions in every job out there? What if psychopaths simply make good doctors, journalists, lawyers and politicians? What if there are millions of psychopaths out there who are among the very best examples at these socially-vital positions?

    Still not conviced? Well…

    Good and bad leaders

    I admit it, many psychopaths would and do make terrible politicians. Such historical leaders as Caligula, Napoleon and Hitler are often said to have been psychopaths, but obviously there is no way of ever knowing for sure. But just because these despicable people exist doesn’t mean they are representative of all psychopathic politicians. Tony Blair is another politician widely-cited as being a psychopath. Again, we shall likely never know for sure if he is or not, but my “psycho senses” certainly tingle when I see him. Blair’s first achievement was making the Labour Party electable for the time in 18 years, effectively bringing to an end two decades of Conservative-dominated politics. Tony’s time as Prime Minister of the United Kingdom is widely remembered for notorious reasons, including joining America’s invasion of Iraq and the suspicious death of Dr. David Kelly. But his governance can also claim responsibility for the ending of war in Kosovo, the resolution to the decades-long Troubles miring relations between Ireland and the UK, the start of self-government for Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, and the very first Human Rights Act in Britain’s millennium of parliamentary democracy, which, among many other achievements, once and for all abolished the death penalty and paved the way for legal recognition of non-heterosexual couples and their rights to adopt children and marry. Not bad for a psychopath, eh?

    Out of a list of U.S. presidents ranked by psychopathic traits, John Adams, Andrew Jackson and both Roosevelts score near the top. John F Kennedy is at the very top. Even the truly great presidents, Washington, Lincoln, Jefferson, Eisenhower, though further down, are all in the top half of the list. Also near the top are less reputable presidents such as Richard Nixon and George W Bush. The point being that there is good and bad in everyone, and just because somebody is a psychopath does not automatically mean they will be a bad politician, indeed they may be good or even great. In a similar manner, just because somebody is not a psychopath, doesn’t mean they will be a good or trustworthy leader. Whether one is a good or bad politician comes down to a person’s motivation. Those who want great wealth stand a good chance of becoming a corrupt politician. Those who are ideologically-driven to the extreme may just turn out to be a Stalin or a Hitler. And this is true regardless of a person’s ‘psychopathy status’.

    Fin

    We have established that barring psychopaths from political positions is undemocratic, unfair and anti-egalitarian. We have also explored how barring them from politics is not even necessarily going to solve any of the problems and that such moves are likely to evolve into more complete segregation of society. And we have looked at what psychopathic politicians actually look like, and have pointed out that they’re not all that bad.

    Let me just finish on a personal note. I am interested in politics, I may very well one day in the far-off future stand for election. If I became a Member of Parliament (the American equivalent would be a Congressman), I would not be interested in lining my own pockets. I am not greedy for financial wealth. I don’t really like money. But I do like power. I would naturally be motivated to reach the most senior position I could. As Prime Minister, or as a cabinet minister, or just as a regular MP, I would treat the creation of a fairer, more just society not as a sacred duty from on high, or as an empathic obligation, or as the morally right thing to do, but as a challenge and a power-trip. And what better way of wielding power or of becoming immortal in history is there than being the one to end corruption, or stop war, or to redistribute wealth equally across society?

    The article I’ve quoted comes with permission from the blog of Fran Nowve. If you want to read the whole article, and I suggest that those of you with leftist views will certainly want to, click here

    If you disagree with this post, why not write a comment below? Better still, write an article in response and tell me why you believe I’m wrong. You can be sure to receive a reply whatever you decide to say.

     
    • @GeneticPsycho (Tina) 06:08 on October 16, 2015 Permalink | Reply

      I will clarify my position that I would like politicians to be tested for psychopathy in an effort to make the voters aware of the empathy limitations, the contrariness, the tendency to go to war. James, you contradict your earlier statement to me that you would be a ruthless leader… and another time you made the statement that if you were the leader, you would sit back and do nothing and just wait out your term.

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      • James 15:17 on October 16, 2015 Permalink | Reply

        That’s not true at all. I said some psychopathic leaders would do those things, and they do. I particularly said I wouldn’t sit back and do nothing like Obama appears to be doing in his last 18 months in office. The only person contradicting me, is YOU.

        You can make voters “aware” of all these things, without taking the drastic and irreversible step to banish psychopaths into the political and social wilderness.

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    • nowve666 12:50 on October 16, 2015 Permalink | Reply

      Tina, there are things that must be ruthlessly combatted. The out-of- control income inequality for example, genocide, for another. Can we. truly some things without ruthlessly hating and opposing their antithesis

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      • @GeneticPsycho (Tina) 14:17 on October 16, 2015 Permalink | Reply

        Are you saying that ruthlessness is related to hate? James told me that he doesn’t understand hate.

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        • nowve666 14:51 on October 16, 2015 Permalink | Reply

          I’m simply saying ruthlessness against things that are against the values you represent can be democratic. I would ruthlessly oppose gerrymandering for example.

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    • nowve666 12:53 on October 16, 2015 Permalink | Reply

      James, you have once more knocked it out of the park. Bravo!

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    • nowve666 16:40 on October 16, 2015 Permalink | Reply

      Tina, the No Masters-No Slaves doesn’t have a place for comments. So I’m commenting on it here. One of the things they emphasized is the view that genetically driven “primary” psychopaths are very rare and most psychopaths are “secondary” ones. If that is true, brain scans won’t get rid if them at all. Interesting video. Progressive in some ways and reactionary in other ways. Calling moral relativism “satanic” is reactionary. Liberalism recognizes that morality is very relative. For example, killing is against the 10 Commandments except when one kills in war or kills in self-defense or kills an animal to eat it’s flesh, etc. One can do the same with all the moral verities. Of course social Darwinism and eugenics are reactionary. Although I think eugenics can be applied in a neutral or progressive way. But so far it hasn’t been. Need I mention that many, many psychopaths don’t subscribe to those last two “satanic” values? But I guess you don’t agree with those people or you would give up using brain scans to make govenment psychopath-free.

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    • Amaterasu Solar 10:03 on October 25, 2015 Permalink | Reply

      Well, MY vote is to remove systems that promote psychopaths to power to begin with. In top-down controlmind, the power over Others draws Them FAR more than the average Human. There are better ways of doing things on this planet. I offer this article to see one way:

      Wearing Black on Thursdays
      http://tapyoureit.boards.net/thread/54/wearing-black-on-thursdays

      Rather than chase every politician and give Them the test – and We will find a large percentage, especially at the top, that prove to be psychopaths – stop doing things in ways that put Them in positions of power over Others.

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      • James 12:25 on October 25, 2015 Permalink | Reply

        Yet since we have established that psychopaths in power aren’t an inherently bad thing. For Hitler and Stalin, there’s a Kennedy, two Roosevelt(s), a Jefferson. I’m not saying this particularly for you, Amy, because I know you better than to believe this could persuade you, but for anyone reading your comment and thinking to herself “hmm, sounds good”. We can achieve a great society without revolution!

        May I ask, how do you react to the apparent rise in popularity of left wing politicians (Bernie Sanders, Jeremy Corbyn, the sustained popularity in Greece of Syriza)?

        Btw, do you speak German? They’ve got capitalised pronouns down to a fine art, just like you 😛

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        • Amaterasu Solar 07:49 on October 26, 2015 Permalink | Reply

          Having psychopaths in control leads to things like “geoengineering” with toxic nanoparticulates, releasing GMO to contaminate the planet, nuke plants built on fault lines, MK ULTRAesque programs, fake “news” to drive an agenda, interweb takeover, vaccines in general and FORCED vaccination in particular, planned obsolescence creating the lion’s share of waste, wage/debt slavery, Agenda 21, and a lot more on a long list. All the Kennedys, Roosevelts, and Jeffersons One can find will not affect most of this, if any. It is inherent in the systems We are using,

          My opinion of all politics is that it’s dog & pony. A show. All controlminds are corporations, and no corporation is going to let Us choose Their CEO. So the whole arena is just distraction and a way to make Us THINK We are involved.

          I know about 10 words of German… I cap Human pronouns out of respect for the co-creator Gods We are – much like scripture caps God, as well.

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          • James 11:16 on October 26, 2015 Permalink | Reply

            That’s all I needed to show the world your general nuttiness.

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            • Amaterasu Solar 09:17 on October 27, 2015 Permalink | Reply

              Which part is “nutty?” The list of psychopathic things We plainly see emerging from systems that promote psychopaths? The FACT that all controlminds ARE corporations and They are not going to let Us choose Their CEO’s? Or that I honor My fellow Humans?

              Not seeing “nuttiness” in any of the three.

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              • James 09:46 on October 27, 2015 Permalink | Reply

                Well of course you wouldn’t.

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                • Amaterasu Solar 09:47 on October 27, 2015 Permalink | Reply

                  That hardly answers the question.

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                  • James 09:55 on October 27, 2015 Permalink | Reply

                    You’re right, it doesn’t. I’ve wasted enough time on you already.

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                    • Amaterasu Solar 09:58 on October 27, 2015 Permalink | Reply

                      Well if THAT isn’t a cop-out! LOL! YOU claimed nuttiness and now refuse to explain. That leaves YOU in the bottom position. That’s OK. I agree enough time has been spent dealing with One who will not support the claims that One has made. [smile]

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                      • James 10:04 on October 27, 2015 Permalink

                        Except you prove my claims for me. Any reasonable person reading your comments would think “man, what a nut”.

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        • Teresa 07:23 on January 1, 2016 Permalink | Reply

          I had a 3 year relationship with a psychopath/sociopath.

          She told me she had ptsd, which she may well have had as I happen to know she did have a shit childhood, but I think her childhood just pure turned her evil. She really had no remorse, she would feign it and I would fall for it, until i didnt anymore. I feel like im now impervious to charm lol. Charming people make me suspicious.

          She pretended to be a person she just wasnt. She even used to post on fb about how she hated domestic abusers…I fell for her ‘kind’ heart, and fell for being abused lol. I dont feel scarred now, I did, but I realised that all the time I hated her and gave her space in my head, was hurting me. I refuse to hurt me anymore :D. Anyhoo, good blog, I may favourite it.

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          • James 10:08 on January 1, 2016 Permalink | Reply

            Thanks Teresa for those kind words. Please do continue to read and share the blog with any friends you think might like it too. I’ll say no more, lest I set your suspicions off. .

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            • Teresa 11:09 on January 1, 2016 Permalink | Reply

              No worries…I do think, even though I have been burned by a psychopath, that certain things about psychopathy just make good sense. Like approaching relationships from a logical standpoint, rather than emotional.

              I actually credit her too for teaching me not to fall for BULLSHIT lol.

              I also beat her up after we split lol, I went to get some stuff from her place and she had another girl there already haha. I saw red and I knew this was my chance for revenge seeing as she wouldnt want to show this new girl her true colours. True to form she made out that I was cray cray and that she was some kind of victim! LOL…She was good gotta give her that. Still atleast I got to exact some revenge in safety. 😀

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              • James 11:23 on January 1, 2016 Permalink | Reply

                And in beating her up, I guess you really showed who was the sane one!

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                • Teresa 11:39 on January 1, 2016 Permalink | Reply

                  Hahaha gosh no, I was the closest to insane, (by the time we split up), that I’ve ever been, which is probably why i did it.

                  I blamed her for my mental health and the fact that she already was wooing another victim.

                  Nowadays I take part of the blame, because I stuck around. Im also glad she moved on and left me alone (though at the time I felt jealous). I do feel sorry for any future girlfriends. Hopefully they are smarter than I was and they get out quick.

                  Btw I wanted to ask, did you ever follow the case of Casey Anthony in the US? I know you said you find it easy to spot a fellow psychopath…I always thought I saw it in her eyes….they seemed just like my ex’s eyes, but maybe I just have a vivid imagination.

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                  • James 12:02 on January 1, 2016 Permalink | Reply

                    Yeah, she’s a psychopath alright. That was an interesting case.

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    • nowve666 16:10 on October 25, 2015 Permalink | Reply

      Amy, I have heard of abundance economics before. The real question is not how to get psychopaths out of office but how to take power in the name of the many from the hands of the few. Scarcity economics which jus what inequality comes down to. No matter what a politician’s brain scan shows, most will succumb to the power of the rich.

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    • Amaterasu Solar 10:12 on October 27, 2015 Permalink | Reply

      Since I cannot reply, James – the reply button is under the permalink button – I will continue in a new comment. If everyOne is taught that the moon is made of green cheese, sure, Those who say it is a rock will be called “nutty.” Just because it sounds “nutty” to the indoctrinated, does NOT follow that it is indeed “nutty.” Was hoping You could be specific on WHY anything I said sounds “nutty.” Not that because it might sound nutty to Those not educated, it must be so. There’s no logic in that.

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      • James 10:20 on October 27, 2015 Permalink | Reply

        This fucking blog’s comment chain is useless.

        I agree in principle with what you’re saying, but I also know there’s no evidence to support many of the extraordinary claims you make. If there were, you would simply post them instead of arguing semantics.

        To pre-empt what you might do next, quoting some website or book that itself has no credibility doesn’t count as ‘evidence’.

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        • James 10:21 on October 27, 2015 Permalink | Reply

          Many if not all, I should say.

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        • Amaterasu Solar 10:22 on October 27, 2015 Permalink | Reply

          Again, no specifics… What “extraordinary claims?”

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          • James 10:25 on October 27, 2015 Permalink | Reply

            Let’s just say that anything you say about the nature of the world, I regard as an extraordinary claim. Everything you wrote in the comment that caused me to call you nutty is an extraordinary claim. I am not giving specifics because with you there is no one thing that stands out as being especially nutty.

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            • Amaterasu Solar 10:26 on October 27, 2015 Permalink | Reply

              So You are knee-jerk reacting, and have no logical basis for Your assessment?

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              • James 10:33 on October 27, 2015 Permalink | Reply

                Not at all. It is you who are making the claims, therefore it is you who must provide evidence for those claims.

                If I claimed to be sitting in bed with the Loch Ness monster right now, would you take it as red that I am telling the truth, or would you quite rightly demand that I provide evidence in the form of a selfie of me with my arms lovingly draped around the neck of the monster?

                What you are doing, in saying that I am knee-jerk reacting, is:

                Misrepresenting my position in order to discredit me.
                Drawing attention away from the fact that you have no evidence to support your various arguments about the nature of this world.
                Turning my own accusations of your lack of logic back on me, i.e. deflecting.

                Remember I have far more experience of ‘playing dirty’ than you. You can’t get one over me like that.

                Now put up, or shut up.

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                • Amaterasu Solar 10:38 on October 27, 2015 Permalink | Reply

                  When You point to the specifics You question, I will see what I can do. And asking a question is hardly a “misrepresentation.” Interesting that You took that as any kind of statement on My part… No need to answer the question that way. Heh. And use it as if I attacked…

                  [sigh]

                  I will be happy to “put up” when You point to what You doubt.

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                  • James 10:58 on October 27, 2015 Permalink | Reply

                    Well, like I said, I doubt pretty much your entire worldview. There is no one specific thing that jumps out from the rest. But since you want specifics, Agenda 21 would be a good place to start. Your bizarre opposition to compulsory vaccination would be another (as if preventing the spread of disease is a bad thing).The assumption that GMOs are harmful is another. ‘Fake news’ is a fourth. Closely linked are your earlier claims that mass shootings don’t really happen. Suggesting nuke plants built on faultlines are a malicious plan rather than simply a bumbling error of incompetency, complete necessity (e.g. the whole of Japan is on a fault line, they’ve got to put their power stations somewhere) or (I don’t know the science on this) completely irrelevant to the overall safety of such a plant. Your belief in malicious “geo-engineering” and “toxic nanoparticulates”. And many, many, MANY more things you have said to me before on other threads but I cannot recall.

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                    • Amaterasu Solar 12:54 on October 27, 2015 Permalink | Reply

                      The fact that most of the People getting measles are Ones who have been vaxxed isn’t a clue? The fact that the jabs are filled with toxins is what? Merely incidental? If this crap worked, You’d think They could deliver in saline or other bioinert medium just what is needed. Some of the most vile thinks persist. Why? Because psychopaths are in control. Once that is processed, the answers become clear.

                      You think the recent spate of school shootings is not staged? Logic alone will tell You this is BS. We have had guns a very long while and such events have kept themselves to one or two a century. Suddenly they are happening almost daily? Pffft. Don’t insult My intelligence by suggesting they are “just happening.”

                      My thoughts on that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF74ibHcQAE

                      You don’t think it’s significant that a test that “proved” GMO was safe that was run by the biotech company for three month only, when repeated for two years showed an anomalous number and size of tumors in the rats? I guess We should discard that longer test, eh? Logical. LOL!

                      And You might want to research Agenda 21. It is very real and creates Human hives controlled by the psychopaths in specific spots on the planet. I think You can get a copy from the UN itself….

                      And please, don’t go putting words in My mouth. NEVER have I said mass shootings do not happen. Just that statistically they don’t happen with zero spontaneous tears and a common theme to have a way to disarm the Ones You (the psychopaths) want disarmed – more than once a decade at most. (That’s very generous.)

                      And no, My silence had to do with doing other things and setting about typing this.

                      James, You do amuse Me. LOL!

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                      • James 13:27 on October 27, 2015 Permalink

                        Oh, I know Agenda 21 is real. But it’s not a mind control thing, it’s to do with sustainability.

                        I apologise for seeming to put words into your mouth, I must have misunderstood your original point.

                        And yes, I figured you were busy, I’m just an impatient bastard 😉

                        Other than that, you have yet to provide a shred of evidence to support your claims. Opinions, “logic” (evidence is not a priori, so I require more than a logical argument to convince me you’re telling the truth. I need facts. You know as well as I do an argument can be logical but false), hearsay and anecdotes do not challenge the overwhelming amount of verified and verifiable evidence against everything you’re saying.

                        By the way, you don’t have to provide the evidence. I’m not demanding you do under pain of harassment. If you don’t want to talk about this anymore, it’s not a problem with me 🙂

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                  • James 12:38 on October 27, 2015 Permalink | Reply

                    Do I take it from your silence that you have no evidence, or am I just being impatient? 🙂

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    • nowve666 12:24 on October 27, 2015 Permalink | Reply

      James, I must side with Amy on the issue of vaccinations and GMOs. You said the person making An assertion has the burden of proof. Forcing everyone to get vaccinations is more than an assertion. It’s an invasion of people’s bodies. I know. All the top science mucky mucks say Dr. Wakefield is a fraud and have was chased out of England after a nasty scandal. But come on! Do you really trust the authorities? I think a large percentage of them are just playing follow-the-leader. A few have an idea and the rest are ballast. Follow the money. Well stands to gain from mass vaccinations? Big Pharma. I know Dr. Wakefield has been accused of mercenary motives. But he stood up too an incredible wall of “expert opinion” and was driven from his country. Looks more like a man of principle losing all to take an unpopular stand. The problem is with the MMR vaccine. It uses live bacteria or viral material unlike most vaccines. The worst outcomes have occurred when all the of the toxic vaccinations are administered together, a preferred method. That is quite an assault on a toddler. They won’t even separate the vaccines into the shots administered some time apart from each other. There have been well documented cases of a normal child developing autism right after receiving the MMR. I know all the arguments. The kid was already autistic but didn’t manifest symptoms until after the shot. Coincidence. And the apparent rise in autism is just because they are defining it differently. I have heard all the lame arguments made to argue away strong evidence the powers that be want too disappear.

      But, aside from who is right about vaccination, what happened to the man who is such a champion of civil rights. Your blog about protecting democracy sounded so Jeffersonian. Shouldn’t people have the right to control their own bodies? I am consistently pro-choice in every area: drug use, abortion, labeling GMOs and vaccination. If we aren’t even allowed the integrity of our own bodies, what do we have a right to?

      I am not anti-vaccine. I get most shots available. But those contain dead organisms. I was lucky to have grown up in a time before the MMR. I got the measles. Big deal. The media is using scare tactics of a mass epidemic to keep the agenda of the Pharmaceuticals. I came by my skepticism of medical orthodoxy honestly. I ignored the standard advice and healed myself of hep c and diabetes, the former with a raw vegan diet and the latter with a cooked vegan diet. Lots of raw foodists are against even flu shots. It’s their right. I can hear you pointing out that adults have a right to control their bodies but children have to be protected from their parents’ eccentricities. In some situations I agree. But the evidence against the MMR vaccine is strong enough to leave the decision in the hands of parents.

      Finally GMOs. I won’t even get into the science of this. People have the right to know what they’re eating. What is Monsanto so afraid of? If GMOs are o.k. they should educate the public to accept them, not force them on people. Did you ever see Omen II? 92nd word: Faemad.

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    • James 12:36 on October 27, 2015 Permalink | Reply

      There is no credible evidence for vaccinations giving anybody autism, and there is nobody outside of a peculiar sect in your country who is even talking about it as an issue. It is a right-wing (of the Glenn Beck variety) American myth. Nobody else is buying.

      You say it is your right to have body sovereignty, I say it is my right to not be threatened by disease from some loony who won’t vaccinate her children because she thinks they might become autistic.

      There is no evidence that GMOs are or even might be harmful Indeed, science says they are fine. No wonder you won’t get into it!

      I stand by my claim. You and Amy have the responsibility to prove with reliable and valid evidence that your minority views have any credibility. This is not me siding with the corporations, this is me looking at the facts.

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      • Amaterasu Solar 13:10 on October 27, 2015 Permalink | Reply

        Hahaha! So vax Yourself. You have no right over My flesh. And yeah, when One discounts anything outside the psychopaths’ control as evidence – “minority view” ha! – then One will not see the psychopaths at the top.

        Got other things to do, James. Do enjoy the day.

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        • James 13:28 on October 27, 2015 Permalink | Reply

          OK, I understand.

          You have no evidence so you’re running away. I win.

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          • Amaterasu Solar 13:48 on October 27, 2015 Permalink | Reply

            Sure. That’s it. You win. Really, convincing You is not that important to Me. There’s plenty to find on the web. Search sometime.

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            • James 14:56 on October 27, 2015 Permalink | Reply

              Perhaps you should take your own advice and look at something that contradicts what you believe. You never know, you might find yourself agreeing with it.

              Also, perhaps a psychiatrist could be of help.

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              • Amaterasu Solar 14:08 on October 28, 2015 Permalink | Reply

                LOL! Dear One, I used to believe the Disney fantasy as You seem to, and it was through looking at the evidence – something(s) that contradicted what I believed – that I saw, as a guy told Me at a SciFi convention decades ago, everything I knew was wrong.

                Do You dispute the “geoengineering” with toxic materials? Are You one of those contrail theorists – never mind that labs pretty much everywhere are measuring unnatural, elevated (sometimes radically) levels of specifically nanoparticulates of aluminum, strontium, and barium, toxins, and biologics…?

                If I was a psychopath and had the money, and wanted to experiment on, deceive, kill off vast populations so as to better control Humans on this planet, “geoengineering” is mighty handy.

                Money systems promote psychopaths. There are, therefore, psychopaths at the top here. Given this, to truly understand what’s going on here on this planet, it is a great boon to accept and work with that fact.

                That last suggestion gave Me a chuckle. Clearly I am failing to think rationally here. Hahaha! Played just like a psychopath.

                I kiss You with My heart. [smile]

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                • James 20:21 on October 28, 2015 Permalink | Reply

                  No, I think you’re a schizophrenic.

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      • @GeneticPsycho (Tina) 13:28 on October 27, 2015 Permalink | Reply

        James, I want stupid people who put anything in their mouth (without a care) to eat GMO’s, so the GMO’s serve a good purpose when those people leave the earth early. Guess what I found – Autism linked to GMO’s, also “inflammatory bowel disease in the US population skyrocketed by 40% since the introduction of GMOs http://responsibletechnology.org/gmo-education/autism/

        If you are vaccinated, then you don’t have to worry about catching the disease from the non-vaccinated, right?

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        • James 13:36 on October 27, 2015 Permalink | Reply

          You’re probably right that being vaccinated protects you. I admit I don’t know much about how vaccinations work. I do know there is no evidence they cause autism though 🙂

          A page from a website that is obviously an anti-GMO campaign does not fit the definition of reliable, reputable evidence. Get me a single peer-reviewed paper published in a reputable scientific journal, then I’ll take notice. Get me several of these papers, and I might even believe you. Anything less is worthless.

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          • James 13:46 on October 27, 2015 Permalink | Reply

            According to your CDC, very few people catch viruses they have been vaccinated against, and though it is possible, the numbers are too small to be significant.

            So I concede the point about compulsory vaccinations. I no longer think it is right to force a person to vaccinate himself for his own safety if that is not what a person desires.

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            • Amaterasu Solar 13:50 on October 27, 2015 Permalink | Reply

              The CDC is a corporation run by psychopaths. They lied about the link They found between MMR and autism. I take everything out of there with copious salt.

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              • James 15:00 on October 27, 2015 Permalink | Reply

                OK, lol. Cuuuuuuuuuuckkkkkkkkoooooooooooooooo

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                • Amaterasu Solar 14:17 on October 28, 2015 Permalink | Reply

                  So say You. LOL! You haven’t checked it out, because it very much is a corporation, trade records on Dun & Bradstreet and all. I did the research, I offer the info, I’m a bit busy, You doubt, You research. [smile]

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          • @GeneticPsycho (Tina) 14:22 on October 27, 2015 Permalink | Reply

            UMMMM. There are references on that page.

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          • @GeneticPsycho (Tina) 14:24 on October 27, 2015 Permalink | Reply

            P.S. I like that you’re pro-GMO. Because you’re a psychopath. It actually makes sense.

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            • James 14:58 on October 27, 2015 Permalink | Reply

              I am not pro-GMO.

              I have no opinion on them. If I eat them I eat them, if not I’m none the wiser. They are not a problem.

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              • @GeneticPsycho (Tina) 15:40 on October 27, 2015 Permalink | Reply

                You are none the wiser!

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                • James 15:44 on October 27, 2015 Permalink | Reply

                  And you are? All that ‘knowledge’ in your head about GMOs is false, because you read the wrong things.

                  At least I know the difference between science and bullshit. Mainly because what I lack in scientific understanding, I make up for in bullshit!

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            • James 15:03 on October 27, 2015 Permalink | Reply

              P.S. Nice job on the comment editing. You made the right choice.

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    • nowve666 16:16 on October 27, 2015 Permalink | Reply

      James, science doesn’t say anything. People say things. Some of those people are scientists. There are scientists on both sides so out all comes down to who you believe. Dismissing a whole body of evidence as not credible hardly stands as a rebuttal. You say the burden of proof is on someone who makes an affirmative statement . You say GMOs and Vaccinations are safe So the burden is on you. Lots of people are suspicious of vaccinations, not just the fever right like Glen Beck. And many European çountries ban GMO. I’m surprised England hadn’t banned it.

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      • James 16:23 on October 27, 2015 Permalink | Reply

        There isn’t a “whole body of evidence” to support your side. Scientific consensus (consensus among scientists, in case you somehow think I’m talking about the Science God) says the GMOs and vaccinations are safe. It is up to those who disagree with the consensus to persuade the rest with evidence.

        You’re right for us mere mortals who don’t practise science, it comes down to who you believe. I choose to believe scientific consensus.

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        • nowve666 18:28 on October 27, 2015 Permalink | Reply

          I read a book by Dr. Wakefield which told his side of things. I have heard of many cases where autism followed right after a shot. I don’t believe in coincidence. I do believe in science but I also know trends regarding “scientific consensus” has a tendency to change every 20 years or so.

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        • Amaterasu Solar 14:30 on October 29, 2015 Permalink | Reply

          Who consists of this “scientific consensus?” With about a flip-flop of the media figures that say Human-created climate affects are all about carbon, seems a very great number disagree. Fossil records say that carbon increase followed warming periods, not preceding or initiating them. (Not that some Humans don’t have a hand in the climate We see, mind You.)

          What are Your “official” sources for who qualify in this propaganda? Some of Us look at the evidence both sides bring. That is the sign of a critical thinker, eh? To assume no very ill motive to convince Us to effectively kill Ourselves here, no propaganda like PopMech’s ghastly piece in support of the official story of 9/11, no psychopaths with the wherewithal to do this should They choose to (and They would), is to assume without giving that concept fair probability.

          James, dear, when money, when accounting for the energy We each add into a system is present as a requirement to survive, psychopaths will rise to the top. And so, promoting these things as good to the masses, and never mind what evidence might actually be, is expected from psychopaths that can, as 9/11 did, do things towards many goals.

          And logic would tell Me that a whole lot more research on both GMO and vaccines would be the order of the day were not psychopaths with profit/power motives in place to force everyOne to partake – NOW!

          You play Your part, and I’ll play Mine. [smile] I do not support forcing toxins into the flesh of Ones whose rights give Them sovereignty over Their said flesh.

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          • James 14:48 on October 29, 2015 Permalink | Reply

            Sorry, I don’t waste time talking to undiagnosed schizophrenics. Now unless you will provide evidence for anything you’re waffling on about, stop messaging me.

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          • Amaterasu Solar 14:50 on October 29, 2015 Permalink | Reply

            [chuckle] Yup, James, You’re right. Have a nice life.

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